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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:06 AM
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So...Twins just swept the White Sox in a four game set to move above .500 for the first time this season, and the first time since May 24th last year. That's something exciting.
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Meanwhile, my Mets seem to be reverting to form and letting their hold on first place slip slowly away...
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Meanwhile, my Mets seem to be reverting to form and letting their hold on first place slip slowly away...
Could be worse...you could be a Brewers fan.

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Quite a few teams playing way better than they should.
One of best early seasons I can remember.
Praying Kate takes it easy on Verlander and he recovers this season.

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Quite a few teams playing way better than they should.
One of best early seasons I can remember.
Praying Kate takes it easy on Verlander and he recovers this season.
Nothing to worry about there, she cut ol' Justin loose back in January.
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Well met!

As to Pete Rose, A-Rod, etc.:

It seems to me that we are judging these issues on rather simplistic ideas of merit and morality. Where do we draw the line to forgive? Is a man who was positively beastly to everyone and did as much harm as he could to opponents within the rules, and revered in his infamy while setting records that still stand (or were only recently broken), and was a domestic abuser before it became uncool, more deserving of being in the Hall than a man who broke the rules, momentarily or over whatever period of time, and was punished, learned from it, and become a better person in his words and actions?

Down the road, medical advances will make the positive effects of steroids and HGH legal and commonplace. Is a man only as valuable as his worst action? Are we going to go after and toss the bad actors who have already been anointed?

Down the road, do we want to discount the amphetamine users' records? The drunks'?

People are complicated, have issues, delusions, neuroses, are controlled by emotions. And they are capable of change, of rehabilitation and redemption. St. Augustine was a libertine before he became a saint.

Whatever they did off the field, and in some cases what they occasionally did on it, certain players were clearly elite. If your favorite Hall of Famer were proven to have betted on baseball, took PEDs, or beat his wife on a regular basis, would you campaign to have him removed from the Hall?

And if you wouldn't, why keep admittedly flawed human beings that nevertheless were integral parts of what excellence in baseball was all about when they were playing from being recognized as such. Asterisk them all you want, but include them?



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Honestly, baseball has been full of cheaters for a long time. We just seem to want to punish the ones we caught (e.g. Shoeless Joe Jackson is still waiting for his lifetime ban to be lifted). Amphetamine usage has been in the game since the 70s and its ban was actually more responsible for an explosion of hitting than steroids (seriously go look at how many perfect games and no hitters happened before amphetamines were banned and how many after). Gaylord Perry is in the Hall of Fame despite using an illegal pitch. We seem to choose arbitrarily where we draw this line and we want to believe there was a golden age of baseball where people only got by on "raw talent". People have been cheating and bending since the beginning. It feels a bit hypocritical the way it's been treated.

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Re: Sports: MLB

How about them O's!!!! First place!

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Super glad I did not brag up the Tigers when they got off to a hot start.
They are really getting on my nerves. It is going to be a long summer if they do not start turning things around with a quickness.

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Super glad I did not brag up the Tigers when they got off to a hot start.
They are really getting on my nerves. It is going to be a long summer if they do not start turning things around with a quickness.
Don't even... I'm a Cleveland fan.

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Yeah, I should not complain. We have been good for awhile so the expectations are high. Plus with the money they are spending they should be better. Still enough time to claw their way back.

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Yeah, I should not complain. We have been good for awhile so the expectations are high. Plus with the money they are spending they should be better. Still enough time to claw their way back.
They've done this for the last couple of years also - hang around .500 until the All-Star break, then turn it on after to win the division.

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