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Re: The Book of Ten of Spades (Breathing)

Yeah, I'm generally leery of SA of 3 for the most part due to the fact the average base def is now 5. The bonus wound when you do hit is the only reason I think it needs to stay down at 3 to hit the 140 price point. Whiffs on defense happen. If you would prefer rolling 4 dice twice, I'd drop the bonus wound then. Your call.
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Re: The Book of Ten of Spades (Breathing)

I personally just find a specially attacks that's just ranged double attack to be boring. Plus for most of the game she's gonna get OMs until she falls so she'll have plenty of attempts to try to get in the extra wounds.

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Re: The Book of Ten of Spades (Breathing)

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due to the fact the average base def is now 5.
Is this true? Legitimately curious.

Fwiw at attack of 3 produces 1.5 skulls on average and a defense of 5 produces 1.33 shields on average, so an attack of three should be plenty viable against a defense of 5.

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due to the fact the average base def is now 5.
Is this true? Legitimately curious.

Fwiw at attack of 3 produces 1.5 skulls on average and a defense of 5 produces 1.33 shields on average, so an attack of three should be plenty viable against a defense of 5.
According to the On Deck Sortable Index the average is 4.5. Very easy to check, just select the whole column and in the bottom right corner on Google Sheets it defaults to Sum but you can change it to Average, Min, Max, or just count the selected cells.

A double attack of 3 is totally viable and the chance at an extra wound is huge.

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due to the fact the average base def is now 5.
Is this true? Legitimately curious.
Defense values are pretty stable over the history of the project. Marginal decrease from the early days, if anything.



Log scale on the second chart - the trend is even less notable than it looks at a glance, but it is still down and not up.
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due to the fact the average base def is now 5.
Is this true? Legitimately curious.
Defense values are pretty stable over the history of the project. Marginal decrease from the early days, if anything.



Log scale on the second chart - the trend is even less notable than it looks at a glance, but it is still down and not up.
For fun I broke it down:
001-100: 4.27
101-200: 4.81
201-300: 4.65
301-400: 4.75
401-500: 4.46
501-600: 4.46
601-700: 4.75
701-800: 4.28
801-900: 4.83
900-1000: 4.55
1000+: 4.09

Fairly consistent over the whole project actually. This is only counting the printed defensive value on cards, not tracking any special powers.

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Re: The Book of Ten of Spades (Breathing)

Yeah, trying to track overall power level is a different, more complex conversation. Defense numbers are just about where they always were though.
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Re: The Book of Ten of Spades (Breathing)

Lots of figures that have auto-shields, wound ignore, or attack dodge powers are given base def of 3/4. I actually prefer a lower base defense with an auto-shield power.
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Re: The Book of Ten of Spades (Breathing)

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Lots of figures that have auto-shields, wound ignore, or attack dodge powers are given base def of 3/4. I actually prefer a lower base defense with an auto-shield power.
And a lot of those don't work against special attacks.

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