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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Vote for public playtesting

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Vote for public playtesting

Queen of Spades is posted for public playtesting

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Good to see this faction continue to move forward.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Queen of Spades

Army Test 1
Map: Modified Grundy’s Grave
Units: Team 1 (810): Queen (200), Captain America (240), Wonder Woman II (370)
Team 2 (810): Nightwing (200), Starfire (210), Raven (190), Arsenal (190), Skrull Infiltrator x2 (20)


Pre-game thoughts: A generalist thing, hopefully using Wonder Woman to deflect/counterstrike attacks with Deceptions.

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!

Post-game thoughts: Queen had a lot of potential here, but couldn’t quite pull the trigger on her Deceptions rolls. Still a win for her team though, and she did help some with her 2 successful switches. I think she’ll still be a useful generalist piece, but I’m not sure she’s better in that role than Malekith, who is only 20 points more.
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Army Test 2
Map: Modified Grundy’s Grave
Units: Team 1 (770): Queen (200), King (210), Ace (260), Duploids (100)
Team 2 (770): Chief (165), Elasti-Girl (235), Robotman (175), Negative Man (135), Negative Spirit (40), Skrull Infiltrator x2 (20)


Pre-game thoughts: N/A

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!

Post-game thoughts: Much better showing for Queen’s Deceptions rolls here, but the RFG’s lack of heavy firepower outside of Ace kept them from overwhelming the Doom Patrol.
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think she has some potential as a generalist with the Deceptions ability. Overall, her main tricks both being based on the D20 makes her feel a bit swingy. Not a bad thing at all, just makes her a bit hard to pin down cost-wise.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Really dig the concepts here!
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)

Thanks for the tests. That's 2 wins for her, but not overwhelming wins. No changes to happen yet.

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)

Well I know she got a minor nerf post-initial, but she’s really looking at 4 wins to 1 loss, right?
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)

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Well I know she got a minor nerf post-initial, but she’s really looking at 4 wins to 1 loss, right?
Correct. I'd like to see some more tests and if necessary her deceptions might get decreased again down to 2 spaces range. I don't want to make that change just yet.

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)

Anything we especially want to see in testing here?
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Public playtesting)

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Anything we especially want to see in testing here?
I'm mostly interested in determining if her Deceptions is too powerful. So anything that can maximize that would be good. Secondly, I am beginning to believe that the Royal Flush power might be too weak. I found it did not trigger often and easily breaks the chain. As Ace is the only figure with a decent attack, failing to take a turn with him is very detrimental.

Possible changes I might be making is decreasing the range effect of Deceptions again down to affecting friendly figures within 2 spaces from Queen.

Second change might be to increase Royal Flush D20 bonus using the X OM from a +3 to a +5. (Actually might make all +3s to +5s on everyones power as they all need the X, I find they fight over it).

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