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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

I still don't get the issue here. I don't see this as broken.
  1. it's figures within 5 spaces of her, so a). figures with a range of 6 have no issue what so ever. b). she has to be that close to the attacking figures for it to have any benefit for other team members, which puts her in the front line.
  2. it reduces the attack, it doesn't nullify it, so with her weak-ass defense she is still painting a target on herself.
  3. it only effects normal attacks. Special attacks can't be modified.
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

Maybe subtract 2 from the attack dice instead of 3. As it is now a lot of figures will really struggle. Putting a limiter on the power might help as well. "If there is one or more unrevealed Order Markers on this card..."
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

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Maybe subtract 2 from the attack dice instead of 3. As it is now a lot of figures will really struggle. Putting a limiter on the power might help as well. "If there is one or more unrevealed Order Markers on this card..."
Those would be fine.
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

Just subtracting 1 is plenty powerful too.
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Maybe subtract 2 from the attack dice instead of 3. As it is now a lot of figures will really struggle. Putting a limiter on the power might help as well. "If there is one or more unrevealed Order Markers on this card..."
Those would be fine.
Something to consider is that if she has to have one or more unrevealed OM's on her card for this to work, then it might be kind of funky with her having to reveal an OM or take a wound after using Psychic Blast. So there would definitely be good timing needed or else she's going to burn an OM to take a turn then burn an OM to use Psychic Blast, or she's going to us an OM to take a turn and then give herself a wound for Psychic Blast. But then she'd still need an OM for Mental Shields to work. So unless you want to give her a wound or not use Psychic Blast, she'd need at least 2 numbered OM's and the X to be able to take a turn, use PB (burning an OM) and still have an OM on her card for Mental Shields. She's not going to be much use to her team if she's hogging all the OM's, can't use her PB, giving herself a wounds with PB or not having an OM for Mental Blast to work.

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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

I don't really have a dog in this fight, so I pretty well trust you guys to figure this one out. I'll chime in if there's a poll or I think I have a useful suggestion.

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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

Just throwing something else out there:

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When an opponents figure within 5 clear sight spaces of Saturn Girl attacks with a normal attack, the attacking figure rolls X less attack dice, where X is equal to the number of Order Markers on this card. The minimum of dice an attacking figure can roll is 1. Figures that are Telepaths, or have the Mental Shield power are not affected by this special power.
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

I like that A3n, just make it "unrevealed Order Markers" and I am sold on it.
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

She'll always get the X OM and on occasion it will work out on initiative switch where she might have X and a number to get extra help for her and teammates close to her. On her own, she'll be nasty for first couple attacks if opponent has initiative where they get -4, -3, -2 to attacks if close enough. But that's only against short ranged or melee units after they are already established in close. Decent ranged units can be fine by keeping their distance for as long as possible. Hand Ninja might not do so good as a squad opponent, but HYDRA Agents should do fine.

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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

Good stuff. Agreed on unrevealed.
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

Or we could go with "revealed Order Markers" to lessen the power a tad more but also reflect her using more brain power and being active means that she is more powerful.
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Re: Saturn Girl - Design Phase

Why do you want her less powerful?

With the compromise I made already, she is probably not worth drafting as it's going to be very hard for her to effective in her role. Your latest suggestion would make her next to useless.

The game by default is slanted towards attacks so she may pull a few teeth out of an attack . It's just another tactic, she doesn't do anything to their defense so it's not like they are going to curl up & die. It's just going to take them longer to get through or they use a special power or range.
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