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Re: The Book of Multiple Man (Unique) (Design)

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Looks cool! We probably want the "no additional turns" language on the X-Factor power, right?
Actually, now that I'm looking over his army-building possibilities, I'm realizing that I might have deliberately left that out originally so that he could pair well with Siryn. Kind of a bummer to shut that down.
Maybe test it that way and if it proves too strong we can always shut it down later.
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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

Maybe make the X-Factor power after taking a turn with the chosen figure then put in the no additional turns language? So it allows things like Vocal Trance and Cyclops I, but disallows traditional sidekick bonding?
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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

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Maybe make the X-Factor power after taking a turn with the chosen figure then put in the no additional turns language? So it allows things like Vocal Trance and Cyclops I, but disallows traditional sidekick bonding?
Good point! That might be the easiest way to reshuffle so that Siryn can do her thing but you don't end up turn chaining with Sidekicks.
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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

Planning armies tonight. Assuming no objections, I'll go ahead and make that tweak:

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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

I look forward to increased relevance for Hellboy.

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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

Mid-initial here. Impression so far is that his bonding could stand to be reined in a hair, since he works well with some pretty strong figures and he's a little more hands-off than I'd like right now.

Right now I'm thinking I'd like to run the last game with this tweak:

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After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Unique Hero you control that is a Bruiser or Investigator and taking a turn with that Hero, you may move and attack with up to three Multiple Man figures you control. If that Hero is not Jamie Madrox, all Multiple Man figures must be within 6 clear sight spaces of that Hero before moving. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
Turns things down just a hair for his buddies, and gives him a slight edge when working with the Dupes, so he's more apt to get the odd OM.
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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

I dig it. If he's being that passive, they need to be near the action.

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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Waiting for Initial)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Jamie Madrox

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Jamie Madrox @90, Multiple Man x7 (300) vs Omega Red (300)
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** bumped Dupes roll to 12 **

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Jamie Madrox @90, Multiple Man x7 (300) vs Batman (I), Robin (Dick) (300)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Jamie Madrox @90, Multiple Man x7, Strong Guy, Siryn, Sage, Jubilee (905) vs TMNT, Meggan (905)
Spoiler Alert!

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** Based on the play there, he's a little bit too hands-off for my taste? Gonna try the next game with a slight tweak to X-Factor Accompaniment **

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X-FACTOR ACCOMPANIMENT
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Unique Hero you control that is a Bruiser or Investigator and taking a turn with that Hero, you may move and attack with up to three Multiple Man figures you control. If that Hero is not Jamie Madrox, all Multiple Man figures must be within 6 clear sight spaces of that Hero before moving. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
** Idea being to give him a little more incentive to get the odd OM, and to limit his bonding just a hair, since it did feel on the strong side; or more accurately, he pairs well with some already really strong figures, so pushing to get a little more involved himself feels like a sensible thing to do **

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Jamie Madrox @90, Multiple Man x7, Strong Guy, Siryn, Sage, Jubilee (905) vs Professor X, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel (Warren), Blink, Armor (905)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think we need to go down to activating two Multiple Men for the bonding. Granted, he didn't go up against auto-wounders here, which would be a big Achilles Heel for him, but he's feeling pretty intimidating right now.

Given where the other X-Factor characters are in terms of points (and the need to draft a bunch of common Multiple Men with him), I'd like to keep him pretty cheap, so my first instinct is just to move him forward with the bonding reduced to two figures.

I like his overall playstyle here, especially with the tweaks. Just overachieving a bit, so my plan is to move forward like so:


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You may draft Jamie Madrox into an army with one or more Common Jamie Madrox figures.

X-FACTOR ACCOMPANIMENT
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Unique Hero you control that is a Bruiser or Investigator and taking a turn with that Hero, you may move and attack with up to two Multiple Man figures you control. If that Hero is not Jamie Madrox, all Multiple Man figures must be within 6 clear sight spaces of that Hero before moving. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.

DUPES 12
When Jamie Madrox receives one or more wounds from a normal or special attack, you may roll the 20-sided die before placing Wound Markers. If you roll 12 or higher, ignore any wounds Jamie Madrox just received and, if possible, place one of your previously destroyed Multiple Man figures adjacent to Jamie Madrox.
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Re: The Book of Jamie Madrox (Initial Posted)

Looking solid! Good to see lots of Sage tests.
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