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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
Yeah I see it. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to post my results straight on here or send it to the LD 1st?
I'm going to run one more test, I missed a note on something the LD wanted tested. Planning a 1200 point Ms Marvel led Avengers vs Cyclops led X-Men. Quote:
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
I played a bonus game with Cap to get one in with higher point teams. Not a good day for the Avengers!
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Captain America – Sam Wilson - 180 Army Test Map: Ruins of Heroes Past Units: Ms. Marvel, Captain America 180, Giant-Man, Iron-Man 240, Spider-Man 250 vs Cyclops 240, Firestar, Gorgon, Angel 90, Bishop, Wolverine Bonus Game: Normal Attack Damage: None RICOCHET ATTACK SPECIAL ATTACK R4T1 Wolverine 2 wounds R4T1 Cyclops 1 wound Three other attempts all misses in round 5 Recap: X-Men crush the Avengers. Totally one sided. Cap spent all his time on the outside. Avengers never even killed one X-Man! Round 1: Iron-Man attacks Gorgon but takes a wound himself. Cyclops tries his S.A. But misses all 3 three enemies blanking on 5 dice. Angel carries Gorgon. Gorgon attacks Ms. Marvel for 1 wound. Iron-Man gives 2 wounds to Cyclops. Ms.Marvel gives Gorgon a wound. Gorgon hits Ms Marvel for 2 wounds. Round 2: Bishop enters the game. Gorgon kills Ms Marvel. Iron-Man gives 2 wounds to Wolverine. Wolverine kills Iron-Man. Round 3: Giant-Man swats Gorgon away, giving him a wound. Giant-Man attacks Gorgon for a wound. Cyclops hits Spider-Man for 3 wounds. Gorgon gives Giant-Man another wound. Spider-Man webs Firestar for 2 wounds. Round 4: Gorgon puts 1 wounds on Giant-Man. Cap S.A. Wolverine for 2 wounds and Cyclops for 1 wound. Spider-man gives Firestar another wound. Cyclops gives a wound to Cap. Firestar kills Spidey. Giant-Man attack Gorgon but takes a wound instead. Round 5: Lots of misses Round 6: Cyclops kills Cap. Gorgon kills Giant-Man. Who won? X-Men List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cyclops 2 of 5 life left Firestar 1 of 4 life left Angel 4 of 4 life left Gorgon 3 of 6 life left Bishop 5 of 5 life left Wolverine 6 of 6 life left ------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: More of the same here. Cap hung around the outside directing traffic and attacking with his Special Attack when the opening is there. In this game Cap missed more than not. Still right at 180 but tough to hit the second target with his special attack. |
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
I sort of assumed Carol + Sam would be a little redundant. So I'm not too surprised there... as brutal as that was. Good that he did manage to get some hits in at least. Thanks for going the extra mile.
I don't think another set of tests would hurt, but he doesn't seem problematic at 180 and I do think he's draftable there... if our tests agree. Other thoughts? Does he need a boost? JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
I'm not sure how to do it, but I'd like to see his Special Attack be a little more effective. Any adjustments would probably bump the points up. Even though its 2 attacks it almost always seems like a better option to attack once with someone else.
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
Well, it is a special attack (i.e., used when circumstances make it advantageous). Theoryscape tells me that the second attack is probably useful only as a last resort or vs squad figures, as a 4 attack SA will probably be reduced to 2 for the second attack.
Thematically, that seems appropriate for Sam to me. He shouldn't have many issues with taking out Hydra minions, but doesn't hit quite as hard as Steve against bigger foes. |
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
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Pre-Yea for Final Editing at 180. Feeling really good here. I do want to put in a request to change the Special Attack's name, though. Ricochet Attack Special Attack reads really odd. Like Superheroes and Comics?
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (Playtesting Ph
That's perfect Scape! Just the results I was hoping to see. He's never going to replace Steve or the other headlining leaders, but he's a fun piece to have in the mix when you're building your Avengers army.
So with that I'm comfortable PROPOSING WE MOVE TO FINAL EDITING. For reference, overally, 4 wins (2 close, 1 solid, 1 big) and 3 losses (2 big, 1 close). Pre-Changes: 3 Solid Losses (johnny139) Post Changes: 1 Big Loss, 1 Solid Win (Lobster) | 1 Close Win, 1 Big Win, 1 Big Loss (Ericth) | 1 Close Win, 1 Close Loss (Scape) As for the SA - I agree, was never super hot on it. Maybe just Ricochet Special Attack? I want something fairly simple but can't find any synonyms that are quite right... JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (VOTE for Editi
Maybe just add shield in front of it, so Shield Ricochet Special Attack?
Yea for Final Editing. |
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (VOTE for Editi
yea
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (VOTE for Editi
yea
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of Captain America (Sam Wilson) (VOTE for Editi
This passes to final editing!
Shield Ricochet would be perfect... if it wasn't already USAgent's SA. Maybe go in the other direction - Shield Rebound, or Shield Bounce, or Shield Hurl? JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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