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[Ixe]

Hamilton is definitely fragile with his 5 life and 3 defense for a melee character, but he's not exactly a front-liner. He's also very strongly anti-hero and would not be that useful against squads. For the most part, 4 attack alone would be sufficient to take out a given squad member.

As a bonding hero, his potential for setting up an assassination is just that much greater. You can draft the wolves with Hamilton and another hero (getting into high point ranges now), and just move Hamilton into position and wait, deferring bonding turns to the other hero instead. When the way opens, charge him in to take out a key figure like Q9 in a single swing. My fear is how easily he can accomplish this against so many otherwise sturdy targets. Maybe it would function similarly but less devastating if it was closer to Maul than Lethal Sting. Just my two cents, in any case.

[AMIS]

Originally Posted by Ixe

Hamilton is definitely fragile with his 5 life and 3 defense for a melee character, but he's not exactly a front-liner. He's also very strongly anti-hero and would not be that useful against squads. For the most part, 4 attack alone would be sufficient to take out a given squad member.

As a bonding hero, his potential for setting up an assassination is just that much greater. You can draft the wolves with Hamilton and another hero (getting into high point ranges now), and just move Hamilton into position and wait, deferring bonding turns to the other hero instead. When the way opens, charge him in to take out a key figure like Q9 in a single swing. My fear is how easily he can accomplish this against so many otherwise sturdy targets. Maybe it would function similarly but less devastating if it was closer to Maul than Lethal Sting. Just my two cents, in any case.

Thanks for the input, it is certainly welcome!

[AMIS]

Seanessy and Wisp add to the op.

[Ixe]

Wisp
I don't believe I understand what this unit is doing. Does Appear give you a form of attack bonding with each figure adjacent to it? If so, that is an absurdly powerful power, allowing you to set up turns around powerful heroes to absolutely devastate your opponent. For 10 points. If I'm reading this right, I would recommend only making it apply to a single figure so it effectively gives you order marker flexibility rather than allowing you to gain extra turns off of a 10 point common hero.

I'm also a little unsure about Fate, since you don't say anything about where the figure should be placed. Is it supposed to work in tandem with Appear? If you're supposed to place it adjacent to the wisp, that also seems to be another flexible way of moving around your figures.

Seanessy
I think I understand this one a bit better, although I must say that 50 pts is probably too cheap for him. His first ability enables him to throw charge into battle for essentially an attack of 6, 8 with height, values met by only high point units. If the target survives the assault or he becomes surrounded, he can rather easily disengage out of his current conundrum and gain a full attack wherever he goes. If I'm reading dog bit correctly, it is an additional special attack that he may get on top of his normal attack if he started the turn engaged. this means that on top of his huge attack he can maintain after moving away, he can follow it up with a dog bite since he technically started the turn engaged. While he is definitely fragile, it just strikes me that he is perhaps packing too much fire power for a hero of his cost.

[AMIS]

Originally Posted by Ixe

Wisp
I don't believe I understand what this unit is doing. Does Appear give you a form of attack bonding with each figure adjacent to it? If so, that is an absurdly powerful power, allowing you to set up turns around powerful heroes to absolutely devastate your opponent. For 10 points. If I'm reading this right, I would recommend only making it apply to a single figure so it effectively gives you order marker flexibility rather than allowing you to gain extra turns off of a 10 point common hero.

I'm also a little unsure about Fate, since you don't say anything about where the figure should be placed. Is it supposed to work in tandem with Appear? If you're supposed to place it adjacent to the wisp, that also seems to be another flexible way of moving around your figures.

Seanessy
I think I understand this one a bit better, although I must say that 50 pts is probably too cheap for him. His first ability enables him to throw charge into battle for essentially an attack of 6, 8 with height, values met by only high point units. If the target survives the assault or he becomes surrounded, he can rather easily disengage out of his current conundrum and gain a full attack wherever he goes. If I'm reading dog bit correctly, it is an additional special attack that he may get on top of his normal attack if he started the turn engaged. this means that on top of his huge attack he can maintain after moving away, he can follow it up with a dog bite since he technically started the turn engaged. While he is definitely fragile, it just strikes me that he is perhaps packing too much fire power for a hero of his cost.

Good catch on the wording for both Appear and Dog Bite, they should read;

On the Wisp;
Appear
Once per round, instead of moving the wisp normally, you may teleport to within 8 clear sight spaces. All adjacent figures to the Wisp may roll their engagement attacks when the wisp uses Appear.

Fate is one figure moved to within 2 spaces - there is no attack bonding, strictly a movement bonding, and can be used in tandem with Appear.


On Seanessy

Dog Bite (Range 1, Attack 1)
If Seanessy is engaged at the start of his turn and does not move, after his normal attack he can attack one more time.


We've used these figures for a while but I'm willing to change points costs...What would you place on them?

[AMIS]

The monster is created.

[flameslayer93]

Yowza he's slow, but very thematic. If your dead set about the unit's capabilities, try dropping his cost to around 50. Weaknesses abound, his main use will be a bodyguard, and most units would rather have Izumis. At 10 points fewer, one could make an argument that a ton of Life makes a decent alternative to 3 figures.

Its ok Frankie, I murmer and groan when I wake up too...

[AMIS]

Cost dropped.

Yes I'm more about theme and aesthetics than anything else.

[Ixe]

The Monster
Interesting hero. He's a slugger for melee but is night useless against range. Pretty much every single unit can kite him. Fire weakness is not terribly well defined but it's easy enough to suss out for a custom and whatever house rules you want to lay down. He's very map dependent since on more than a few maps out there he can be trapped on one side of the field while range picks away at him. Backlash is otherwise an interesting version of counterstrike that again makes him tough against melee. I can definitely see him being fun in the right context.

[AMIS]

Drunken Master added.

[Ixe]

Drunken Master
This guy seems like an interesting one-off hero. He's got decent stats for his price and the potential of multi-attacking is always good, although you have to be careful about where you place him. He's hardly a leader for the Shaolin Monks, however, nor does he particularly feel a good fit for Ullar. If pressed, I'd say Utgar would take on the disgraced. His drinking downside won't come up too often so it is more thematic than anything. It would be cool if he got a little upside from drinking. Maybe an extra attack die or some such. Cool idea for a hero.

[AMIS]

Originally Posted by Ixe

Drunken Master
This guy seems like an interesting one-off hero. He's got decent stats for his price and the potential of multi-attacking is always good, although you have to be careful about where you place him. He's hardly a leader for the Shaolin Monks, however, nor does he particularly feel a good fit for Ullar. If pressed, I'd say Utgar would take on the disgraced. His drinking downside won't come up too often so it is more thematic than anything. It would be cool if he got a little upside from drinking. Maybe an extra attack die or some such. Cool idea for a hero.

I like that idea...possibly an extra attack die for that turn. Let me ponder that!