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Old January 18th, 2021, 02:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

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Enforcer basically fits in name only, not really in context. So the "personal military force" concept aligns to a degree. However, in the context of what we actually have classed as Enforcers, IMO these guys don't really fit in the slightest. The whole organization is very rooted in Harada's Japanese culture, with Psiot ranks literally being designations found in samurai culture.
In precisely what way does Enforcer not fit? I get the whole Japanese culture thing, but I'm still trying to work out why they don't fit as Enforcers. If you could be more specific as to the exact feeling, it would help me help you (and yes, I'm aware exactly how twattish that sounds! )


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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

Current Enforcers include

Firebrand - works for corrupt business man (but according to the bio, this was before even adopting the name so this one doesn't even make sense to me).
Joe Fixit - Hulk as bouncer working for a corrupt casino
Reptile - Trained assassin of Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung (closest comparable)
Balrog - M Bison's Bodyguard
Superwoman - I'm gonna guess this is her acting out the will of the Syndicate? Another weird one to me.
Montana - Hired Assassin/Extortionist
Fancy Dan - Hired Assassin/Extortionist
Ox - Hired Assassin/Extortionist
LexCorp Security (2) - Lex's Guards? This one is also still weird to me.

Enforcers to me, as we've been making it, are essentially brought in to do the dirty work of the leader, through money or manipulation. None of those fit the type of Foundation Psiots (though Reptile is the closest argument for it).

Foundation Psiots are pieces of the organization and the school, and some are also used in combat roles, especially related to recovering objectives and resources for the foundation. They believe in and are committed to the mission and are not just their for the job. They are essentially "agents" of the Foundation. They just obviously lack the spy part we usually associate with agent.
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

Hmm... Operative does actually work there, then, as long as we're good with them sharing a synergy web with Authority and Alpha Flight. Honestly, I'm not seeing why Enforcer couldn't stretch to people who believe in the villainous acts they're enforcing (it's a class, not a personality), but those are both sounding pretty good.


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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

Cultists!

Seems we haven't used Zealot as a class, but if there's going to be a lot of them who apply and it's not an orphaned class, I think that might be a reasonable one to add.

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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

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Cultists!

Seems we haven't used Zealot as a class, but if there's going to be a lot of them who apply and it's not an orphaned class, I think that might be a reasonable one to add.
That'd also be a really good one for Terminators of Termight, IMO.


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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

Basically neither johnny nor I feel they fit there, so I'm not gonna be convinced on Enforcer. I have no issue with them sharing a web with Alpha Flight and Authority (and now Defiance) but some may say that doesn't fit either.

I thought Zealot was planned for Cultist stuff?
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

Our current Cultists just have the class of Cultist, so might be best to stick with that over there.

Would a personality hook be an option for these guys, or are they generally too varied?
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

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Our current Cultists just have the class of Cultist, so might be best to stick with that over there.

Would a personality hook be an option for these guys, or are they generally too varied?
Somewhat varied, but Kris keying in on differing classes was done with Foundation Psiots matching class in mind.
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

@johnny139 Any thoughts on Foundation Psiot class? Operative is my current leaning, but I'm not sold on it. They may need a new class title.
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

Yeah, they're tough to pin down. I kind of like Zealot here, which gives them an extra layer of theme and fits the characters - they're definite "true believers" in the cause. But I really don't mind just giving them their own class to work with, like Disciple or Radical or something.

I'm not sure the SA really needs the electrically charged bit, as I'm not 100% on how being made of electricity would interact with his powers, but like... definitely doesn't hurt. Otherwise looks good.
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

I can go for any of them, so I'll just poll it out:

Class Preference for Foundation Psiots:

A: Operative
B: Radical
C: Disciple
D: Zealot
E: Something Else New
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Re: The Book of Ion (Breathing)

My order of preference:
C > B > A >>> D
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