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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - VOTE for Initial Playtesting

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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - VOTE for Initial Playtesting

This version seems a bit stronger, so I'm going to try him at 330 instead of 280. Loses the round number block with Darkseid (II), but now Darkseid (II), him, and a set of Parademons is a block of 1,000, which seems good.

One more vote will do it.

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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - VOTE for Initial Playtesting

I think it might partly be the mechanics of it actually. I think it would parse better if it took effect after attacking an adjacent figure and he dealt 1 or more wounds.
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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - VOTE for Initial Playtesting

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and stop the vote for now and sleep on it. Dude just doesn't have that much comic book presence to go on, but I'm not sure we've settled on something evocative yet.

I do like Battle Hardened and the troop movement power. It's the third power that I want to mull over a bit more.

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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - Design Phase

I totally get that and I think you're about 2/3 of the way there. Had to do that with the Colonel too.
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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - Design Phase

Just nu52 Steppenwolf (which I guess this is going for?) has 39 appearances according to DC wiki. That's not enough for you? Some of us are working with single digit appearances you know


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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - Design Phase

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Just nu52 Steppenwolf (which I guess this is going for?) has 39 appearances according to DC wiki. That's not enough for you? Some of us are working with single digit appearances you know
Seems like most of those are the Earth 2 (or wherever) version of him that kills Superman and Wonder Woman. The Earth-Prime version doesn't have much by comparison.

I have an idea I'll post in a bit, though.

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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - Design Phase

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Just nu52 Steppenwolf (which I guess this is going for?) has 39 appearances according to DC wiki. That's not enough for you? Some of us are working with single digit appearances you know
Seems like most of those are the Earth 2 (or wherever) version of him that kills Superman and Wonder Woman. The Earth-Prime version doesn't have much by comparison.

I have an idea I'll post in a bit, though.
My understanding is that the New Gods aren't multiversal. So Earth 2 Steppenwolf is Steppenwolf that happened to show up on Earth 2. Just like Darkseid that attacked Earth Prime is the same one that basically took down and invaded Earth 2.

Also fairly certain the mini you're using is based on the Earth 2 look anyway
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Just nu52 Steppenwolf (which I guess this is going for?) has 39 appearances according to DC wiki. That's not enough for you? Some of us are working with single digit appearances you know
Seems like most of those are the Earth 2 (or wherever) version of him that kills Superman and Wonder Woman. The Earth-Prime version doesn't have much by comparison.

I have an idea I'll post in a bit, though.
My understanding is that the New Gods aren't multiversal. So Earth 2 Steppenwolf is Steppenwolf that happened to show up on Earth 2. Just like Darkseid that attacked Earth Prime is the same one that basically took down and invaded Earth 2.

Also fairly certain the mini you're using is based on the Earth 2 look anyway
It's the only mini for Steppenwolf available. I'd prefer to do Earth-Prime, though.

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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - Breathing

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NAME = STEPPENWOLF

SPECIES = NEW GOD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = INVADER
PERSONALITY = DISCIPLINED
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6
MOVE = 6
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 6
POINTS = 330

APOKOLIPTIAN TROOP MOVEMENT

Instead of moving normally with Steppenwolf, you may move up to 6 Common Parademon figures you control, then attack with up to 2 Common Parademon figures you control.

ESCALATING INVASION FORCE
After Steppenwolf receives one or more wounds from an enemy figure, you may immediately roll a number of combat dice equal to the number of Wound Markers on this card. For each skull rolled this way, you may place a previously destroyed Common Parademon figure in your Army on an empty space in your Start Zone.


BATTLE HARDENED
If there is at least 1 Wound Marker on this card, the most wounds Steppenwolf can receive from an attack is one.

SUPER STRENGTH
OK, I made him a tad faster to compensate for removing Super Leap, gave him a range of 3 because apparently he's a lethal axe thrower, then cut out any weapon references because clearly I don't really understand how his weapons work in a way that communicates clearly. Instead, I decided to go all-in on his general abilities and give the theme that as he takes more damage from the puny inhabitants of wherever he's invading, he starts to take them more seriously and calls for more and more reinforcements. This soft synergizes with Darkseid (II) without being totally abusable by him.

I think I still want to try him at 330 with this version.

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Just nu52 Steppenwolf (which I guess this is going for?) has 39 appearances according to DC wiki. That's not enough for you? Some of us are working with single digit appearances you know
Seems like most of those are the Earth 2 (or wherever) version of him that kills Superman and Wonder Woman. The Earth-Prime version doesn't have much by comparison.

I have an idea I'll post in a bit, though.
My understanding is that the New Gods aren't multiversal. So Earth 2 Steppenwolf is Steppenwolf that happened to show up on Earth 2. Just like Darkseid that attacked Earth Prime is the same one that basically took down and invaded Earth 2.

Also fairly certain the mini you're using is based on the Earth 2 look anyway
It's the only mini for Steppenwolf available. I'd prefer to do Earth-Prime, though.
Did you ignore the paragraph of stating Steppenwolf is Steppenwolf, no qualifiers required?
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Re: The Book of Steppenwolf - Design Phase

So then the Earth 2 look is the same Steppenwolf as the Earth-Prime Steppenwolf?

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