Gen Con 2010 Main Event Armies

[dok]

Originally Posted by killercactus

I actually thought 4th x4 + Tor-Kul-Na could be pretty interesting. I think TKN is fast enough to catch the Krav, can stomp on Rats and ignore Raelin in the process, and is tough enough to go toe-to-toe with Q9.

The terrain could hurt, though. I haven't examined the maps for GenCon well enough to know just how Stomp-Friendly they are.

I just can't stomach playing TKN without the grubs. So much of his power (and his cost) is in his ability to heal each turn and force your opponent to take him out quickly or get crushed.

4thx4 + Jotun?? OK, this is getting to be crazy-talk.

[killercactus]

Originally Posted by dok

I just can't stomach playing TKN without the grubs. So much of his power (and his cost) is in his ability to heal each turn and force your opponent to take him out quickly or get crushed.

4thx4 + Jotun?? OK, this is getting to be crazy-talk.

I mentioned that somehwere else and mused for a little while about how it might actually work - but I doubt it.

I like 5x Mass and Q10 for a suicide mass strategy, or 4x Mass, Q10 and Raelin

[Matthias Maccabeus]

The 4th certainly have been tough in play-testing.

A few more armies I've been messing with -
Dividers x 7 / Q10
Dividers x 6 / Krav / Laglor
Dividers x 7 / Raelin / Kumiko
Dividers x 6 / Raelin / KA
I have decided that I'm officially a sucker for the Dividers. Thanks Ry...
But I really think you need at least 6 squads to get their full potential.

I also really like Knights x 5 / Gilbert / Eldgrim
It's 25 points short, but the upgrades are sweet!
I'm comfortable against anything with this except rats (and WoA, but since Killercactus isn't coming to Gen Con I'm not worried that anybody will play them). So the question becomes, will the rats be prevalent? Do the PKs knock them out? My gut is no since the repulsors really didn't slow them down last year.

[Gulp]

This might have already been pointed out, but Zelrig will probably be absent for most playtested armies at the championship. Only one of the maps at the championship has the classic 24-hex clumping, and that map has a lava field in it.

[damja]

Originally Posted by Gulp

This might have already been pointed out, but Zelrig will probably be absent for most playtested armies at the championship. Only one of the maps at the championship has the classic 24-hex clumping, and that map has a lava field in it.

My first thought was "Wow, Gulp is right." Now, after thinking about it for a few minutes, I'm not so sure about that.

In every map there are places to affect at least 5 figures with Magestic Fires. Even if there were not, Zelrig is fast, flying, and has a ranged special attack, and has above average life and defense. It is just gravy that his special is particularly effective when opposing armies are clumped and full of common squads.

He is a beast that has to be considered for sure, at least for starting zone allocations of armies that are less than 24 hexes.

[dok]

Originally Posted by Gulp

This might have already been pointed out, but Zelrig will probably be absent for most playtested armies at the championship. Only one of the maps at the championship has the classic 24-hex clumping, and that map has a lava field in it.

"Invasion" and "Jotun's Gap" both also have a 24-hexer startzone, although on Invasion they are too far apart for an OM-1 bomb. However, that's one of only two maps in the pool (Elswin Plateau being the other) where Zelrig can't OM-1 bomb. And there are several maps where Zelrig can hit a 7-hex area in the startzone from height, and then move and hit a different 7-hex cluster from height.

I don't think this is a bad map set for Zelrig at all!

[killercactus]

Originally Posted by Matthias Maccabeus

(and WoA, but since Killercactus isn't coming to Gen Con I'm not worried that anybody will play them).

Even I wouldn't be brave enough to play WoA in the Main Event. HoB or Lightweight, maybe, but probably not.

Originally Posted by Matthias

So the question becomes, will the rats be prevalent? Do the PKs knock them out? My gut is no since the repulsors really didn't slow them down last year.

I don't think you can compare PK's to Repulsors in that regard. It was a pretty sure thing that no one was going to bring Repulsors on Day 1. I can't say the same thing about PK's, though I don't think they will be enough to keep Rats out of the field.

[fomox]

Originally Posted by killercactus

I don't think you can compare PK's to Repulsors in that regard. It was a pretty sure thing that no one was going to bring Repulsors on Day 1. I can't say the same thing about PK's, though I don't think they will be enough to keep Rats out of the field.

I feel like rats are often guarding things with special attacks anyway, and PK's are less of a concern in that case.

[Rÿchean]

I've really just begun fleshing out armies for this thing.

I am a Screw Day 2 Guy for sure; Last year I ran 2xReavers, 5xStingers, K.Awa filling up all of my hexes on Day 1. My philosophy is to worry about getting there first and then deal with reinforcements. I commend those who feel comfortable leaving hexes and points in their pocket, but I am not one of them.

(apologies if either of these is already posted)

3xPKs
5xStingers
24 510
---
Jexik's recent dinging of the Romans has me thinking......

2x10th
Marcus
2xRomans
MBS
AElite
23 510

What do I add for Day 2? I'll worry about that when I get there!

[killercactus]

Originally Posted by Rÿchean

2x10th
Marcus
2xRomans
MBS
AElite
23 510

What do I add for Day 2? I'll worry about that when I get there!

I think I can at least give you a plan for this one....

90 - Raelin
110 - Valguard
130 - Mogrimm/SotM Raelin/Kaemon

or something that really helps with the matchup or the metagame, which is why I think I'd be a "screw day 2" guy myself - I don't know what I'm gonna need until I see what I'm up against.

[kolakoski]

Originally Posted by Rÿchean

I've really just begun fleshing out armies for this thing.

I am a Screw Day 2 Guy for sure; Last year I ran 2xReavers, 5xStingers, K.Awa filling up all of my hexes on Day 1. My philosophy is to worry about getting there first and then deal with reinforcements. I commend those who feel comfortable leaving hexes and points in their pocket, but I am not one of them.

(apologies if either of these is already posted)

3xPKs
5xStingers
24 510
---
Jexik's recent dinging of the Romans has me thinking......

2x10th
Marcus
2xRomans
MBS
AElite
23 510

What do I add for Day 2? I'll worry about that when I get there!

I like the Romans, too. I, of course, cannot bring myself to field th MBS, AE or 10th, but you might go with . . .

150 10th x 2
110 AE
100 Marcus
100 Romans x 2
40 Theracus
500

or

150 10th x 2
120 Mogrimm
100 Romans x 2
80 Raelin
50 MBS or Romans x 1
500

or

120 Mogrimm
110 AE
100 Marcus or Syvarris or Krav
100 Romans x 2
80 Raelin
510

140 PKs x 2
110 AE [or Kaemon for 510]
100 Marcus
100 Romans x 2
50 MBS
500

140 PKs x 2
120 Mogrimm
100 Marcus, Syvarrris or Krav [or AE for 510]
100 Romans x 2
40 Theracus [or MBS or Romans x 1 for 510]
500

For Islandscape (same format), I plan on taking 500 points in the first round, as I like the potential of 100/120/140 over 90/110/130.

[Gulp]

Originally Posted by kolakoski

I like the Romans, too. I, of course, cannot bring myself to field th MBS, AE or 10th, but you might go with . . .

I used AE at GenCon a couple years ago.

I'll never field the AE in a competitive tournament again. Not only do you deal with games where they don't drop until late (if at all). When they do drop, you have to hope for initiative. If you don't get it, then you'll sometimes find yourself in situations where two have been killed in the first turn before you've even activated them.