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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

I’d stray from the point calculator as a base in a case like this, as I don’t think it’s quite accurate when dealing with Lanterns and fluctuating stats. Hal is 40 off base stats, and that means his powers are accounting for 310 points. I just don’t think it’s a one size fits all type of system. But this is speculation of course, we’ll see with testing how it all shakes out. Start testing somewhere in 200’s and go from there lol.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

For Lanterns I usually just calculate based on their fully charged stats and then add in adjustments for powers from there.

Doing it that way gets me to about 245-260 range.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

He’s very equivalent to Rankorr in how he works, so I like the upper-200s range for him.

Totally fine with him being a Red Lantern/Ravager. I think he’ll fit in really well with the more heroic portrayal of the RLs in the second half of their book.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

Name Of The Playtest Unit: Red Lantern (Razer)

Army Test 1

Map: From the Ashes by BiggaBullfrog (no glyphs)
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Red Lantern (Razer) (265), Luke Cage, Songbird, Tigra (805 points)

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

Name Of The Playtest Unit: Red Lantern (Razer)

Army Test 1

Map: From the Ashes by BiggaBullfrog (no glyphs)
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Red Lantern (Razer) (265), Luke Cage, Songbird, Tigra (805 points)

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Army Test 2
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Star-Lord, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Red Lantern (Razer) (260), Star Sapphire (Uncommon) (1,000 points)
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

Short games. Good stuff.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

Personally, I'd just make it unlimited uses rather than an automatic recharge. No real reason it needs to be once per game IMO, as it's on par with something like Lizard or Spawn's healing, and giving up a full turn for it is enough to keep it in check.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

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Personally, I'd just make it unlimited uses rather than an automatic recharge. No real reason it needs to be once per game IMO, as it's on par with something like Lizard or Spawn's healing, and giving up a full turn for it is enough to keep it in check.
I could run with that, if people don't feel it's OP. Shall I run with that for the last game?
Also, is there a reason for the OM reveal requirement? Was that needed for balance? I feel like requiring him to give up a turn and have the OM on his card to use it is a bit over-limiting, and makes him less cohesive as a RL army inclusion and other leaders who could help ease the turn loss blow.

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Instead of taking a turn with Red Lantern, you may roll 3 combat dice. For each skull rolled, place a previously removed red Battery Marker on this card up to a maximum of 3.
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Personally, I'd just make it unlimited uses rather than an automatic recharge. No real reason it needs to be once per game IMO, as it's on par with something like Lizard or Spawn's healing, and giving up a full turn for it is enough to keep it in check.
I could run with that, if people don't feel it's OP. Shall I run with that for the last game?
Also, is there a reason for the OM reveal requirement? Was that needed for balance? I feel like requiring him to give up a turn and have the OM on his card to use it is a bit over-limiting, and makes him less cohesive as a RL army inclusion and other leaders who could help ease the turn loss blow.

I'd suggest:

CHANNELED FURY
Instead of taking a turn with Red Lantern, you may roll 3 combat dice. For each skull rolled, place a previously removed red Battery Marker on this card up to a maximum of 3.
It's actually there to slightly discourage the Atrocitus pairing. He only stayed with the Reds so long, and wouldn't have really had this ability for that duration.


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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Razer) - Initial

It also sort of conflicts with his Righteous Rage triggering and benefitting when he’s not the one revealing the Order Marker, as-is the case with Raph. I thought that was enough to represent that conflict with Atrocitus and such. I’m not sure I’d ever take him in an Atrocitus army then, but if the goal is to drive him elsewhere that’s fair. But the 2 powers sort of conflict with each other, which may be intentional?
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I'm honestly in the same boat as Ark on the powers.
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