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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Need to address LEAs with the teleporting power

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

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I'm pretty against reusing the same power text with different power names (there's so much to remember already, I think that type of thing just gets confusing).
Not to sound rude or argumentative or anything, but I honestly don't understand that mindset. How is having one power with two names LESS to remember than two powers with different names? Especially when those two powers end up very similar and it's only a minor difference that you have to remember?

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He doesn't hand the tech out to others, he's in control of it all, it's to prevent people from turning on him. Plus the power would be pretty useless, then, as he's an OM hub. If you have to throw a few OM's on other cards, it just weakens your army. I think potentially losing turns by using the Disruptors and teleporter is a penalty enough, personally.
The fact that he's an OM hub is precisely why I suggested removing the OMs from the chosen card. I like the strategy of trying to decide between leaving open the option for him to Teleport or protecting your key pieces from a mind controller. Part of it is probably my personal bias against straightforward OM hubs though.

I almost suggested dropping his defense to 3, but I don't know the character enough to have a strong opinion on the issue.

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Old November 21st, 2013, 09:23 PM
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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

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I'm pretty against reusing the same power text with different power names (there's so much to remember already, I think that type of thing just gets confusing).
Not to sound rude or argumentative or anything, but I honestly don't understand that mindset. How is having one power with two names LESS to remember than two powers with different names? Especially when those two powers end up very similar and it's only a minor difference that you have to remember?
I'm also a big fan of reusing powers as appropriate, if that helps any. So my goal is fewer new powers and fewer new power names.

I also think the theme on powers is diminished by using the same exact mechanics to represent two totally different themes. If a power has a unique title, it deserves unique mechanics to fully represent it, IMO. If the mechanics are duplicating something else, it feels harder to justify the different theme. Now, I realize that the basic stats can and do represent all sorts of completely different effects (a ranged attack being anything from a bow to a heavy machine gun to a blast of magic to laser eye beams to a stretchy fist in the face), but the difference between regular stats and special powers is that the special powers are supposed to be special. Part of that, for me, is that each power name is something unique.

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Same power text with the same power name & vice-versa is one of the things C3G is founded on.
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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman



Easy mod for this one! A Bad Samaritan figure for his body, and a Merlyn figure for the head. Paint the suit black, tie red (Or whatever color you feel like!), and his hair grey. Just add his signature face scar and you're done!
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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Very nice. I'm putting him down on my "hire LP to make me one of these in the future" list.

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Nice job on that mod! I'm glad to see that it's a fairly easy mod, looks like something I could do!

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I also think the theme on powers is diminished by using the same exact mechanics to represent two totally different themes. If a power has a unique title, it deserves unique mechanics to fully represent it, IMO. If the mechanics are duplicating something else, it feels harder to justify the different theme. Now, I realize that the basic stats can and do represent all sorts of completely different effects (a ranged attack being anything from a bow to a heavy machine gun to a blast of magic to laser eye beams to a stretchy fist in the face), but the difference between regular stats and special powers is that the special powers are supposed to be special. Part of that, for me, is that each power name is something unique.
I agree with you here... in general. However, I feel that there are plenty of cases where the theme of a power is general enough to be re-used, but the power name is not. For a Classic example: Shaolin Assault and Whirlwind Assault are a similar theme and easily work for both units, but the power name being different makes for a nice extra bit of theme. For a C3G example, Rogers and Sage have nearly the same power (one is "Order Marker on this card" the other is "unrevealed Order Marker"). The difference has no effect on gameplay, but is only used because the name Telepathic Tactician did not fit for Rogers. In my opinion, it would have been much simpler to use the same power, but change the name, rather than creating a very minor difference that could potentially be confusing and is certainly more to remember. Another example would be Keep the Faith on Wolfsbane. It's an easily re-usable mechanic that would be great for representing someone who isn't strong enough for Mental Shield, but has some resistance to mind control. However, Keep the Faith wouldn't work as power name for a lot of units. Sure, we could make a minor change to the power, or we could just change name.

In short, I agree in theory, but making it a hard rule seems needlessly limiting.

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Commander Rogers' thread was actually started first. I agree with the idea here that I don't really feel like Sage's and Rogers' powers are really mechanically different enough to have different names. I'd rather see them both be Master Tactician and have the same exact mechanics, or have something about Telepathic Tactician that makes it feel more "Telepathic." But what's done is done (at least until Sage is revisited).

Honestly, it's more something I feel we can (and should) aspire to, rather than a completely set rule. I think it almost always makes for better cards, and a better universe of cards, so I'm almost always going to want to do it.

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Well, I have to disagree there, as I think there are cases where simply changing the power name would be warranted and would make for better cards.

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

Fair enough. I respect your opinion and I think it's a valid aesthetic approach (even if I don't share it).

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

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Re: The Book of Cecil Stedman

So what's the verdict, then, on his teleport power? I love the theme in the name and mechanics (Removing the OM's representing him paying a crap-ton of money to use it), but if we want the re-usability, I'll survive.


For the defense issue, is it alright if I test him at 4, and then if he's coming in over 200ish points, I drop him down?
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