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Old April 12th, 2011, 05:09 PM
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TWAMP-lite

For anyone not familiar with it, The Tournament Worthy Asymetric Map Project is an ambitious project to design, test and refine highly asymetric maps to balance them for tournament play. Some of the maps there have seen tournament play, but often are met with resistance. To try to help start shifting acceptence of asymetric maps I've decided to collect some of the maps that are in the TWAMP referred to as "pseudo-symetric" (maps that appear asymetric, but tactically are very near symetric-similiar access to height, glyphs, jungle, road, etc.) in the hopes that they begin to see additional analysis and play, paving the way for broader acceptance of highly asymetric maps (plus all of these maps are just plain awesome ).

Arboretum by Robber



Ayrwode's Bluff by GameBear


KC "Hextreme Mayhem" - 1/12/08
Old in Omaha - 3/3/08
Older in Omaha - 3/7/09
KC "Hextreme Monster Mayhem" - 4/11/09

A Chill in the Air by Dignan


Valley War I, Modesto, CA, 8/20/11

Coastal Cavern by GameBear



Common Ground by GameBear


Florida Frenzy 3.0, Tampa, FL, 10/17/09
National Ohioscape Day, Warren OH, 10/17/09
Rocky Mountain Rumble, Boulder, CO, 10/17/09
Allentown PA Tournament: Dragon Wars, 11/21/09
Texas Draft III, Plano, TX, 7/11/10
Rhode Island Rampage, 8/21/10

Desolate Watch by Satyr


NorCal Tourney 1/20/07
GenCon, Indianapolis 8/18/07
DFW's "We Don't Need No Stinking Gencon" Tourney 8/18/07
DFW Wacky Summer Tourney, 7/26/09

Divide and Conquer by Dignan




Dramglade Crossing by Dignan



Elswin Plateau by Mooseman


BOV map

Erosion by Killometer



Fire and Bone by RoninValentina


OVAH NHSD, Louisville, KY 10/9/10
Bay Area Brawl, San Jose, CA, 10/16/10
Valley War I, Modesto, CA, 8/20/11

Fissure by Dignan


Pestered in Westford I 1/2/10
KC's 2nd Birthday Bash, Warren, OH, 5/8/10
Damja's B-Day Tourney, Fenton, MI 7/31/10
GenCon, Indianapolis, 8/5/10-8/7/10
Pitman NJ Tournament 8/20/10
KC Hexteme New Year's Tourney 1/8/11
Valley War I, Modesto, CA, 8/20/11

Horseshoe Hill by Killometer


Not in Kansas Anymore, Savage, MD, 2/26/11
My Time to Shine, Savage, MD, 5/21/11

Ironclad Keep by Robber


Jagged Causeway by Dignan


TEXAS Draft III - 7/11/2010
Wasatch Warfare - 10/9/2010
Bay Area Brawl, San Jose, 10/16/10
NHSD Columbus Ohio - 10/16/2010
Rocky Mountain Rumble 2010 - 10/16/2010
SoCal Slaughter! 2010 - 10/16/2010
Nebraska Skirmish IV - 11/20/2010
Cincinnati Draft Pool Tournament - 1/15/2011
Pestered in Westford 2 - 2/19/2011



Marr Highway by Velenne


BOV map

Mole Hills by Jonathan and R˙chean


BOV map

My Way or the Hiveway by Killometer



Perilous Paradise by Killometer



Placid Plateau by arp12


Pestered in Westford I, 1/2/10
Rhode Island Rampage, 8/21/10

Radiator Springs by GameBear


SCAPE-A-PALOOZA II - 10/17/09
Tree Town Open V - 10/17/09
Draft Pool Tournament, San Jose, CA, 7/31/10
Rhode Island Rampage - 8/21/10

Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh by R˙chean


BOV map

Spring Thaw by Retlaw


Pestered on Westford I 1/2/10
KC's 2nd Birthday Bash, Warren OH, 5/8/10
Indianapolis Tournament 3/26/11

The Squeezed Stream by LongHeroscaper



Ticalla Sunrise by GameBear


BOV map

Trailblazer by Dignan


GenCon 2011
Valley War I, Modesto, CA, 8/20/11

Turret Rocks by Kahrma


BOV map

When Paths Cross by Dignan


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Old April 17th, 2011, 11:29 PM
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Re: TWAMP-lite

This "pseudo-symmetry" is my favorite type of map. Are you avoiding BoV maps? Mole Hills, Arctic Divide, Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh, Turret Rocks, Ticalla Sunrise, Elswin Plateau, and Fossil would all work well.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 11:47 AM
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Re: TWAMP-lite

Thanks for pointing those maps out, arp12.

I don't have time to add them this morning before I leave for work, but I should be able to get them up on the OP tomorrow.

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Re: TWAMP-lite

Gratuitous double post to bump for the half dozen+ BoV maps I've added to the OP.

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Re: TWAMP-lite

Great idea, Killometer!

Personally, I don't think "In the Shadow of the Hive" and "Fossil" should be included because they're so close to perefect symmetry, only off by a few hexes.


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Re: TWAMP-lite

I think you're right about Fossil, rednax, so I removed it, but I'm going to leave up In the Shadow of the Hive. I also added Common Ground by GameBear, and my Horseshoe Hill to the OP.

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Re: TWAMP-lite

I'm going to start listing tourneys where any of these maps made appearences, so if you know any, pass the word along.

Edit: Except for BOV maps-that honor is self-explanatory.

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Re: TWAMP-lite

I've only checked one so far, but Jagged Causeway has also been in:

TEXAS Draft III - 7/11/2010
Wasatch Warfare - 10/9/2010
NHSD Columbus Ohio - 10/16/2010
Rocky Mountain Rumble 2010 - 10/16/2010
SoCal Slaughter! 2010 - 10/16/2010
Nebraska Skirmish IV - 11/20/2010
Cincinnati Draft Pool Tournament - 1/15/2011
Pestered in Westford 2 - 2/19/2011

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Re: TWAMP-lite

Thanks cm, added to the OP.

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Re: TWAMP-lite

Here's some more:

Ayrwode's Bluff was in:
KC "Hextreme Mayhem" - 1/12/08
Old in Omaha - 3/3/08
Older in Omaha - 3/7/09
KC "Hextreme Monster Mayhem" - 4/11/09

Radiator Springs was also in:
SCAPE-A-PALOOZA II - 10/17/09
Tree Town Open V - 10/17/09
Rhode Island Rampage - 8/21/10

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Re: TWAMP-lite

Slowly updating with more tourney appearances (I think that every NHSD '09 tournament used Common Ground ), and added Erosion to OP.

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Re: TWAMP-lite

I would argue that Coastal Cavern by Gamebear is a fully asymmetrical map, as it looks and plays completely different depending on what side you are on.

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