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Old July 10th, 2015, 05:17 AM
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Mind schackle multibull hero's

2questions about mind schackle


1. when i have a hero like drake and NGS.
my drake dies can I "than" mind schackle my opponents drake.
because my drake is dead its no longer part of my army.


2. are there figures who can block mind schackle or any other powers with the same power
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Old July 10th, 2015, 11:45 AM
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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

1. Yes.
2. No.

Also, the word is "multiple," though of course your English is 1,000 times better than my non-existent Dutch.

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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

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1. Yes.
2. No.

Also, the word is "multiple," though of course your English is 1,000 times better than my non-existent Dutch.
1. Actually, no, since the Drake was once part of your army, so you cannot mindshackle a new Drake to your side.
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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

Aren't you Debbie Downer. Fine. No.

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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

While the answer to #2 is correct, it is worth noting that Morsbane has an ability with a 20% chance of neutralizing Mindshackle if used pre-emptively (and a 5% chance of killing Ne-Gok-Sa outright).

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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

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1. Yes.
2. No.

Also, the word is "multiple," though of course your English is 1,000 times better than my non-existent Dutch.
1. Actually, no, since the Drake was once part of your army, so you cannot mindshackle a new Drake to your side.
There is the revive glyph which isn't commonly used, but things could get complicated really fast if there is say a random glyph pool which may or may not include the revive glyph. Anyway, easier for the designers to just say no.

I believe the glyph came in wave 1, so it would have been a consideration when designing/testing Ne-gok-sa.
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Reasoning

For a long time you used to be able to mindshackle unique figures that you already had in your army. They were not considered the same figure. So two Taelords or two Raelins could boost each other. This was the ruling for quite some time. Then Ulginesh showed up. Ulginesh gets to take a turn with two wizards, neither of which can be Ulginesh. Based on the previous ruling after revealing an Order Marker on Ulginesh you could take a turn with an elf wizard and your other Ulginesh and then on that Ulginesh's turn take a turn with an elf wizard and the original Ulginesh ad infinitum and your opponent would never get another turn. So that's why the rule is that you can't mindshackle figures that you already have in your army. It's also why now if you and your opponent have Marcu he can't betray either of you.

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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

I'm not sure what a "multibull" is, but holy heck I want one!

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Re: Mind schackle multibull hero's

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because my drake is dead its no longer part of my army.
A destroyed unit is still part of your army, so you cannot mindshackle an opponent's drake. Originally, you could do this, but the rule was changed due to the Sturla glyph, which can bring back dead units.
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