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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - VOTE for Public Playtesti

Still need two votes here, unless I'm counting Archie's from the last proposal attempt.

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - VOTE for Public Playtesti

This passes, thanks!

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - VOTE for Public Playtesti

SP is updated with the reevaluation version (and the original version in spoilers). Public testers, please test with the reevaluation version there and please test with Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) and Superman (Billy Batson) to get the full effect of the bonding.

I'm happy this is public, because I won't be available to send out info for the next few days (going on abstain for about a week tomorrow).

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Public Playtesting

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Captain Marvel – Mary Batson

Version tested:
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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: 1000 pts – Captain Marvel(Mary Batson) 330, Superman(Billy Batson) 440, Oracle, Zombie VS 1000 – King Kong
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Army Test
Map: Wakandan Royal Forest
Units: 1200 pts - Captain Marvel(Mary), Captain Marvel(Billy), Superman(Billy), Billy Batson, Skrull VS 1200 pt Avengers – Thor 430, Captain America 240, She-Hulk 370, Wasp 160
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 330 seems fine.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Mary's teams went 0-2 against what I consider 2 really top teams at their point cost. Both games had big moments where the balance of the game could have swung to the Shazam Squads favor. In game one they had King Kong at 1 life left and only needed to win initiative while getting a plus 6 to the d20 roll. They win it they probably kill Kong, they lose he heals and gets a double turn. They lost the roll and then the game. In game two they had a triple turn needing to do 4 wounds to She-Hulk in round 2 they got 3 and the Avengers were able to keep their bonding around for a little longer. Trying to stand up to Captain America boosted She-Hulk and Thor attacks is pretty tough. The minus 1 to the attacks with the Shazam Shared Power definitely hurts but the benefit of getting 3 attacks from strong figures out weights it. The change to this figure definitely helps bring it up to a competitive level. It's the first time that I've used any of the Shazam figures, so its likely that they could be used more efficiently than I did.
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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Public Playtesting

Thanks for the tests! Looking pretty balanced there to me.

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Public Playtesting

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Public Playtesting

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson)

Army Test
Map: Sewer
Units: Superman (Billy Batson), Captain Marvel (Mary Batson), Shazam (Billy Batson), Code: Blue Officer vs Power Girl (400), Stargirl (150), Starman (190), Stripe (180), Dr. Fate (270)
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Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Shazam Family (see previous test) vs Teen Titans (Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Superboy, Changeling, Red Robin, Hellfire: Ignition)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: The bonding is pretty good. I don’t think it makes her unbalanced right now, but the potential addition of cheap, high power Shazam family members could make her pretty concerning.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: She was very fun. I don’t know a lot about her power scaling but it did seem strange to me that she consistently hit harder than Billy if she moved at least two spaces first, but I don’t know that I’d debuff her attack stats any further, either. She seems like she’s in a good place, but pushing her further could move her over the line.
Really happy I got to test this one. The Shazam family is very dear to me. Thanks for letting me take a crack at playtesting her.

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Public Playtesting

So looks like 3-3 and mostly wins against less competitive builds and losses against more competitive builds. Seems like that puts the faction in a good place, but I'm also cool with a 10 point bump if there's concern about this making her too powerful.

Either way, I'm confident about moving forward here!

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Re: Captain Marvel (Mary Batson) - Public Playtesting

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: CAPTAIN MARVEL (MARY)
VERSION TESTED
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Army Test
Map: CONFLICT CHERNOBYL
Units: Captain Marvel (Mary) (340), Captain Marvel (Billy) (360), Hoppy (140), Billy Batson (60) (900) vs Green Arrow (150), Red Arrow (150), Black Canary (900), Oracle (110), Martian Manhunter (I) (300) (900)
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Army Test
Map: CITY PARK
Units: Captain Marvel (Mary) (340), Captain Marvel (Billy) (360), Hoppy (140), Billy Batson (60) (900) vs Crime Syndicate (900)
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UNIT SUMMARY: Hoppy definitely adds a lot more “pop” to the Mary/Billy combo as he brings in an increased chance of initiative wins and turn efficiency when Mary’s not sharing her powers. I think a 10 point bump and reducing Mary’s Attack number to 5 (since it’s really easy for her to get the +2 to equal Billy) is a good way to go to keep her balanced after the other boosts to her card.

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