Green Wyrmling discussion and playtesting

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by TheAverageFan

Maybe the Green should have Poison SA and Counterstrike (or just 5 Defense) just to make everyone happy.

I doubt people would go for that, but it could be fun.

Move: 6
Range: 1
Attack: 3
Defense: 2

Fledgling Poison Breath Special Attack
Range 5. Attack 3.
If this Green Wyrmling inflicts at least 1 wound with Fledgling Poison Breath Special Attack, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll an 11 or higher, add one additional wound marker to the defending figure's army card.

Fledgling Counter Strike
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack from an adjacent small or medium Squad figure, all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

Flying
When counting spaces for a Green Wyrmling's movement, ignore elevations. A Green Wyrmling may fly over water without stopping, pass over figures without becoming engaged, and fly over obstacles such as ruins. When a Green Wyrmling starts to fly, if it is engaged it will take any leaving engagement attacks.

The biggest problem with Counter Strike of any form on a Common unit is that Raelin exists. It's pretty easy for such a power to become oppressive against melee armies. Samurai Archers with Raelin can be crushing against some armies, but their poor attack power holds them back in general.

[Shiftrex]

Ah yes, pure chaos

To be honest, if there was a large green dnd dragon in our canon (most consider VC canon so I call it that) then I'd personally want the same thing. I understand your perspective.

[Tornado]

They should have Fledgling Flying.

[wriggz]

Originally Posted by Scytale

The biggest problem with Counter Strike of any form on a Common unit is that Raelin exists. It's pretty easy for such a power to become oppressive against melee armies. Samurai Archers with Raelin can be crushing against some armies, but their poor attack power holds them back in general.

I wonder though. Bonding melee could run heroes up . That leaves pure melee like dividers, vipers and ashra since zombies have a special attack. In a war of attrition each of these units have strengths.

I suppose you wouldnt only have green wyrmlings, but then I can't imagine only drafting those squads and nothing else. I'd be willing to test this out. At 35-40 points that would be an expensive and holely screen.

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by wriggz

I wonder though. Bonding melee could run heroes up . That leaves pure melee like dividers, vipers and ashra since zombies have a special attack. In a war of attrition each of these units have strengths.

I suppose you wouldnt only have green wyrmlings, but then I can't imagine only drafting those squads and nothing else. I'd be willing to test this out. At 35-40 points that would be an expensive and holely screen.

A long time ago, before my tenure, a Green Wrymling design failed SoV judging due to counter strike being oppressive.

[wriggz]

Originally Posted by Scytale

A long time ago, before my tenure, a Green Wrymling design failed SoV judging due to counter strike being oppressive.

I red the review D_S down voted for reasons, and it had I think 5 defense. 3 or 4 defense on commons would be much less punishing, especially at 70 point for 2.

[NecroBlade]

Originally Posted by Scytale

They couldn't. D&D dragons have specific looks. It's like confusing different breeds of dog.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to you. I meant to 99% of the planet.



Anyway, here's our winner:

GREEN WYRMLING

5 Move
1 Range
4 Attack
4 Defense

35 Points

Spoiler Alert!

from Icaria on the forbidden side

FLEDGLING COUNTERSTRIKE
For each excess shield a Green Wyrmling rolls when defending against a normal attack from an adjacent attacking figure, roll an unblockable attack die against the attacking figure.

FLYING

[heroscaper2010]

Originally Posted by NecroBlade

Anyway, here's our winner:

Yeah I’ve ran a couple tests with this one and it is a solid design. Useful but not too powerful. Helps fill out points and fix the space limit issue in the 4th army while giving them a potent but vulnerable screen.

[wriggz]

It's also worth noting 4th mass is not the dominant armey it once was.