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Old March 23rd, 2022, 11:48 AM
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Re: The Book of Miek - Public Playtesting


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Re: The Book of Miek - Public Playtesting

Thoughts after testing with Alex:


Game 1:
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Game 2:
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Game 3:
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:

Draftability and balance are great.
Comparing him and Korg, they have almost the same stats, with Korg having 1 extra life, and defensive power, and special attack, making him tougher and stronger. 
But Miek’s flying gets him in quick, especially with Warbound, and his stats keep him around long enough to make good use of his unblockables, which came in more handy than Korg’s special, and is easier to control than the luck of Rock Wall Defense.
Never Stopping works against Warbound’s stat boosting, but his flying allows him to grab height easily, and a Gladiator with Unstoppable Resilience would be a perfect pairing.

If Batman (I) is the perfect representation of 200pts, then I think Miek is on the higher end of what 200pts means in terms of usefulness. But there are a lot of stars at 200pts (Kraven, Lizard, Ozy, Wiccan, Beast, etc.) He's no 225pt Human Torch though. :P
In a vacuum, Korg beats Miek, due to the stats, toughness, strength, and Miek needs at least one other figure to be attacking figures near him to get his points worth, which Korg does not. But Miek brought more overall to his team, making Miek a true support unit, so 200pts seems just fine.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:

The way to play him is to activate him only when necessary. Engage with him early on, and move him only to keep him engaged, attacking those figures with someone else, and he does the work on his own. Had a lot of fun playing the Glads, and looking forward to playing the others in the future!
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Re: The Book of Miek - Public Playtesting

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Miek

Army Test
Map: Elm Street
Units: Miek (200), Korg (235), Meggan (205), Baron Zemo (170), Crossbones (160), Batroc The Leaper (130) (1100) VS Thor (440), Hulk (450), Black Panther (210) (1100)
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Miek (200), Korg (235), Captain America (180), Meggan (205), Echo (130), Stan Lee (50) (1000) VS Magneto (310), Mastermind (95), Scarlet Witch (285), Quicksilver (215), Toad (95) (1000)
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Miek (200), Korg (235), Captain America (180), Meggan (205), Echo (130), Stan Lee (50) (1000) VS Magneto (310), Fantastic Four (1000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think 200 is good for Miek if everyone's ok with it, but I personally think a point bump wouldn't hurt. I'm not sure what a reasonable change would be though. Miek, Korg, and Meggan already seem pretty strong together, and I think they'll work even better once we get more Gladiators and Warbound.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I really liked Miek's performance in the tests I played. All of his powers were utilized and had a notable effect, even Chemming, which surprised me. I did notice that Never Stopping seems to let Miek roll unlockables even when he can't move next to the attacked figure. Is there someway we can word the power so that moving adjacent to the attacked figure is necessary to roll the unblockables?
Here are the tests!

I'll wait until tomorrow evening for some feedback, if there is any, and then I'll put up the vote for Final Editing.
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Re: The Book of Miek - Public Playtesting

He could probably come up in points, but I think the risk of unlockables on your own units keeps him right around 200.

If the intent is for him to move to that figure or not do it at all, then this is probably the way to go.

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At the end of your player turn, if possible, Miek must move adjacent to an enemy figure within 3 clear sight spaces that was attacked by a friendly figure this player turn. If Miek ends this movement adjacent to the attacked figure, roll an unblockable attack die against each figure adjacent to Miek. Roll each attack separately.
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Re: The Book of Miek - Public Playtesting

Could always drop his defense by 1 to keep him at 200 too. 5L/5D is still decently sturdy!
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Re: The Book of Miek - Public Playtesting

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He could probably come up in points, but I think the risk of unlockables on your own units keeps him right around 200.

If the intent is for him to move to that figure or not do it at all, then this is probably the way to go.

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At the end of your player turn, if possible, Miek must move adjacent to an enemy figure within 3 clear sight spaces that was attacked by a friendly figure this player turn. If Miek ends this movement adjacent to the attacked figure, roll an unblockable attack die against each figure adjacent to Miek. Roll each attack separately.
Made these edits to Never Stopping.

I propose that we move to Final Editing at 215 points.

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Re: The Book of Miek - VOTE for Final Editing

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Fwiw, you don’t have to tag Heroes for Final Editing votes, only On Deck.
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