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Old June 2nd, 2021, 08:58 AM
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

5-6 overall with one of the losses being close seems balanced to me. And he's better when played with his synergies, which seems ... right?

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Old June 2nd, 2021, 10:14 AM
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

Well, to be a bit more specific (I goofed on one of the counting last time):

@ 190
1 Big Victory, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Autowound, w/ Renegade Synergy

@185
1 Medium-Close Victory, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Autowound, w/ Renegade Synergy
1 Medium Win, No Reroll (Points Shifted to Harada), w/ Foundation, (vs Legion)
1 Medium Loss, No reroll, not sure if life was upped, w/ Red Skull Types, (vs Avengers)

@195
1 Big Loss, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ Foundation Synergy (vs Renegades)
1 Solid Victory, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ Foundation Synergy (vs Renegades)
1 Medium Loss, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ Foundation Synergy (vs Superman Family)
1 Medium Victory, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ Foundation Synergy (vs X-Men Build)
1 Close Victory, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ Light (just Pete) Psiot Synergy (Vs Xmen)
1 Big Loss, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ Foundation Synergy (Vs Fighters)
1 Solid loss, Blank Reroll, Remove Marker to Block, w/ REd Skull Types (Vs Young Justice)


So really, at 195, he's 3-4 with Losses seeming to outweigh the wins. Seemed to be a leaning from people that they'd feel more comfortable with that point value with a life bump rather than the Blank reroll effect on the special attack.

He swings up to 6-5 if you count times he was run lower, but one of those wins included a life bump for Harada which seems to have made a sizeable difference in the gameplay. In his native synergy at 195, he is 2-3, going 3-3 if he drops 10 but we give those to Harada with an extra life. Inclination generally seemed to be preference to those points and life being on Stronghold rather than Harada.

So with all those numbers and eval, I'm feeling @195, no blank reroll, upping life to 5. I can run a game at that value if anyone would like to try and confirm it, but I don't think we necessarily need another pair of tests. If people are cool with 195 and 5 life, I will gladly accept pre-yeas. Alternatively requests for a confirmation game are accepted as well.
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

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Old June 2nd, 2021, 12:18 PM
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

Oof that’s a lot of variables.

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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

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Oof that’s a lot of variables.
No changes in the 195 section, really. Everything is consistent in those other than team played or played against. The 190 and 185 are where any changes are present.
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

I played Stronghold at 4 life for both games. I'm good with upping his life and finalizing at 195.
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

The concern is that an extra life could be worth a lot when you can potentially ignore wounds with special powers. It seems like a sanity test might be a good idea if doing the life bump, or otherwise just moving forward as is with a 10 point drop.

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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

True, but you are limited to 4 wounds ignored and need someone to perfectly or better defend against an attack to recharge them. I never had it be impactful enough to use in my games.
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

You're limited to one wound ignored, unless I've worded it that poorly. Supposed to only work if exactly one wound is received. It generally hasn't seemed like that's gotten much use, as the main play seems like its been "charge up, go for the big hit/kill". I'll try and run a sanity test on it tonight, as I do understand the concern feel. Its mostly intended as a swap for the relatively unused blank thing (I used it, others didn't feel it worth it).
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

Yeah I never used the ignore-wound thing.
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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

Sure, just trying to be cautious and all, since usually +1 Life is worth more than 10 points and this seems to be a lower points by 10 or bump Life by one conversation.

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Re: The Book of Stronghold (Public Testing)

Yeah after playing around with it in some sanity play stuff, I feel better about raising the ceiling rather than upping life, so I propose we move to Final Editing at 195, upping total markers to 5 from 4.

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