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Re: The Spellbook of Hypnotize - Vote for Final Editing

As I just explained in Mordo's thread, Mordo was fine at 260 and this was fine at 25, separately, so I split the cost of the synergy as 5 points between them so it wouldn't unfairly result in one or the other being priced out on its own.
Also, could we please restrict the discussion to the Mordo thread? The more threads on which we're discussing the same topics, the more frustrating it is to keep track of.


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Again, do we want the cost for the spell synergy on Mordo or the spell? That will determine the cost I'm willing to vote it forward at. If the former, I'm fine with 25 with dok's suggestion to add an OM restriction added in.
Why is this even a question? Of course, Mordo's synergy should be reflected in Mordo's cost, not the spell. Why should others taking this spell have to pay for Mordo's synergy?

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Again, do we want the cost for the spell synergy on Mordo or the spell? That will determine the cost I'm willing to vote it forward at. If the former, I'm fine with 25 with dok's suggestion to add an OM restriction added in.
Why is this even a question? Of course, Mordo's synergy should be reflected in Mordo's cost, not the spell. Why should others taking this spell have to pay for Mordo's synergy?
Eh, if Mordo had already been completed and the spell came out, it would have to be balanced around his set cost. And you can argue that the spell system is an optional rule and people should be able to play Baron Mordo fine without them.

I'd definitely prefer the cost on Mordo though, so that the spell is usable outside of builds with him. I just want to settle on one of them, so that we can move forward with fewer variables. I'm not comfortable trying to vote three things forward at once.

EDIT: and as I said above, I'm okay with 25 points here.

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Re: The Spellbook of Hypnotize - Vote for Final Editing

Yes, finalize the spell first. Then finalize Mordo.

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Re: The Spellbook of Hypnotize - Vote for Final Editing

Okay, then - I propose moving Hypnotise to Final Editing at 25 Points.

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Re: The Spellbook of Hypnotize - Vote for Final Editing

Could some one compile a summary of only test with Hypnotize without Mordo or Mesmerize. Every test I've seen on browsing has been with multiple. If the other spell wasn't actually used in the game you can count it.

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Re: The Spellbook of Hypnotize - Vote for Final Editing

Also, are we adding the OM restriction or not? I feel like that keeps getting ignored.

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Could some one compile a summary of only test with Hypnotize without Mordo or Mesmerize. Every test I've seen on browsing has been with multiple. If the other spell wasn't actually used in the game you can count it.
Try looking through the test reports in the OP - the first and third were purely Hypnotise, and the second was only with Mesmerise which doesn't really pair with Hypnotise in and of itself.
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Also, are we adding the OM restriction or not? I feel like that keeps getting ignored.
Look, whatever will get it passed at this stage.
I mean, I'm willing to discuss it, but every time it gets brought up there's no response. Are you against it?

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Also, are we adding the OM restriction or not? I feel like that keeps getting ignored.
Look, whatever will get it passed at this stage.
I mean, I'm willing to discuss it, but every time it gets brought up there's no response. Are you against it?
I already made my position clear - it seems unnecessary based on the testing and it eliminates a number of the builds where the spell is actually viable to use, but Mordo is basically draining my will to live at this stage so if this is what it takes to get it passed, then I'm okay with it.


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but Mordo is basically draining my will to live at this stage so if this is what it takes to get it passed, then I'm okay with it.
Would you like someone else to step in and lead this while you take a break? Or just put everything on hold for a week? There's no rush for these and we want you to be happy with the results.

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but Mordo is basically draining my will to live at this stage so if this is what it takes to get it passed, then I'm okay with it.
Would you like someone else to step in and lead this while you take a break? Or just put everything on hold for a week? There's no rush for these and we want you to be happy with the results.
I would love to, but I was really hoping to wrap this up soon so that I can get on with Nightmare and hopefully get that in for the spell release.
Also, draining my will to live was hyperbole - not that it isn't having a similar effect, but not quite that bad.


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