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Re: George Tiller's Murder
Messenger, can you speak in plain English please?
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I followed the first part, but by the "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness" bit it sounded dangerously like you condoned the murder. |
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Do you really think that, ollie? I followed Messenger's post perfectly, but then I already know the doctrine. He was trying to agree that actions by a few can have enormous effects using the Biblical example of the fall and redemption of man to demonstrate. The forgiveness through the shedding of blood mentioned is a price already paid by Christ.
~Aldin, theologically He either fears his fate too much or his desserts are small That dares not put it to the touch to gain or lose it all ~James Graham |
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The paragraph that begins "But God demonstrates..." is the one that really through me for a loop, for many of the reasons that Christian doctrine in general does. |
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BL: I get the feeling you misread me. |
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I am really surprised that any church would be OK with having Mr. Tiller on staff, even in a volunteer role, as most churches denounce abortion. Does anyone know of any churches that condone abortion? |
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I believe it was Lutheran, but I am not certain.
Buddy Lee "Out of all the ridiculous religion stories...the silliest one I've ever heard is, 'Yeah, there's this big, giant universe...and we're all just here, just 'cuz. Just 'cuz." - Trey Parker |
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I'm pretty sure it was Lutheran.
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My thoughts on this situation mirror what others have said. While I find abortion to be reprehensible, I find murder to be just as so. Murder to end murder is not a justification in my mind. |
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I believe it's also worth noting that Tiller had been shot before and his clinic had been attacked. I say this just to add what I consider to be a bit more depth to the story which is that he knew the dangers and obviously felt that he had an important role to play, since he continued.
He died doing something he believed was right. Not killing babies but rather supporting women's rights. I'm making assumptions, btw. Check out Gulp's Glyphs Not Worth Grabbing and Gulp's Abilities Not Worth Activating! Very Useful Thread: The Heroscape Library "Heroscapers.com is not a charity site for the illiterate." -Gbob
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See now aren't those one and the same in Tiller's case? “Heroscapers is too old for that crap.” ~IamBatman "Hahahah! You losers! I told you so!!" ~Clancampbell |
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