The Holocron of Ben Kenobi's Den

[DanieLoche]

I'm sorry but with this form, it's just impossible for me to read your playtest... too much abreviations for me, it will take days for me to understand it clearly... ^^"

[Koolster25]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Yeah you will need to call for a vote to move it into public play testing. Hold off a few days before you do so though so everyone can get a chance to look over what you have and process it all. They may have some thoughts or ideas to contribute that make it even better. I still need to look over your last tests as I just have not had the time yet to give them a real thorough read through.

Ok. I wasn't ready to call for a vote yet, I just wanted to know how to go about it.

[Koolster25]

Originally Posted by DanieLoche

I'm sorry but with this form, it's just impossible for me to read your playtest... too much abreviations for me, it will take days for me to understand it clearly... ^^"

I gave it a quick once-over edit and tried to type out the abbreviations the first couple time they were used. If you need me too I can spend some quality time later fixing it better.

[DanieLoche]

Thank you, and also thanks for the playtest and all the work you're doing here.

I'll try as soon as possible to read your work to give my opinion.

[Koolster25]

Originally Posted by DanieLoche

Thank you, and also thanks for the playtest and all the work you're doing here.

I'll try as soon as possible to read your work to give my opinion.

I normally start by typing everything out and then shift to shorter and shorter abbreviations. That was actually the second part of the Playtest form I had been working on so it was just all abbreviations. If you need me to go back and fix more of it just let me know. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts too.

[Porkins]

I went through the first two rounds of the test and separated each turn within a round with carriage returns. Makes it easier to read.

[Koolster25]

Originally Posted by Porkins

I went through the first two rounds of the test and separated each turn within a round with carriage returns. Makes it easier to read.

Thanks! That's a good idea. I will start doing that on all of my playtests.

[Koolster25]

Completed another playtest without any reinforcements. This has been the best game so far and will likely be the final scenario. I'm going to break down the map so I can playtest the Ewok Hunters, so this will be my last playtest for a while. I am immensely satisfied with the current scenario.

Spoiler Alert!

R1
Obi moves to alcove, Luke uses Daring Escale to move R2, C3 follows
Raiders get a 6 man turn, 4 eng Luke, 2 eng R2, they attack Luke, 1 hit, 1 hit, 1 hit, Blocked, 2 hits to R2 and a Block.
OW Force Pushes a Raider out of Luke's way, Luke Dares through the gap with R2, C3 fills the gap where Luke had been to eng 3 Raiders, Luke shoots a Raider.
OW Mind Tricks the Raiders. OW engages 2 Snipers and attacks 3 skulls are blocked, moves to alcove shoots a Raider eng to R2 and C3.
OW MTs Snipers.
R2 uses Divine Mission, engages 2 uneng Raiders.

R2
Init tie. Tuskens win second roll by 1.
OW MTs Snipers.
OW FPs a Sniper off height, takes height and attacks, hit, Luke attacks a Raider engaged to R2, hit.
OW misses Mind Trick by 1 (counting R2s boost). Snipers attack OW, 10 for TCR, B, 13, B, hit from adj Sniper.
OW kills a Sniper, FPs R2 away from sand, Luke attacks a Raider eng to R2, B.
Raiders have 3 man turn (OW out of range)(only 3 raiders left) no ambush, 1 atks R2, 2 atk C3, 1 hit to R2, 1 to C3.
No reason for Divine Mission.

R3
3 Raiders and 2 Snipers vs. 3 life OW, 1 life Luke, 1 life R2 and 2 life C3. C3 boosts an init tie to a win for the Heroes.
OW kills Raider eng to R2, Luke attacks Raider eng to C3, whiff.
Snipers atk, 8 TCR, 2 sk vs Luke, Luke Escapes, atks OW, 7, B.
OW atks Raider, B, L atks Raider B.
Sniper engs Luke, atks, whiff, Sniper atks OW, 13 TCR, B.
OW engs Sniper, FPs to low ground, atks, B, Luke Dares away, atks Sniper, B.
Raiders go, no ambush, OW out of range for MT, 1 atks R2 and 1 atks C3, R2 Bs, 1 hit to C3.
No DM.

R4
2 Raider and 2 Snipers vs OW with 3 lives everyone and else with 1
OW fails MT, Tuskens atk, L Bs, OW Bs.
OW kills Sniper, L kills Sniper.
OM 2 lost on Snipers.
OW kills a Raider, L is B.
Raider goes, kills R2.
OW kills last Raider.

Results: Obi-Wan with 3 lives, Luke with 1 life, and C-3PO with 1 life.

A single roll in the Tusken's favor could've turned the game around at any point. Heroes did a good job of tying up the Raiders that probably overextended too much on their first turn. Bad luck with the Snipers who if they could've finished Luke or put some more hits on Obi would've tipped the scales. Only R2 died but it was a deceptively close game. Almost all of the map was used, except the edges of the den. This game was the most fun and most balanced yet. Up until the last Sniper died it was anyone's game.

Spoiler Alert!

Test
R1
3 Raiders move, 1 eng Luke, 1 R2, and 1 both, 1 hit to Luke.
Obi moves to alcove, Lukes Daring escapes with R2, Luke moves to 2nd level rock, R2 adj, C3 ties down 2 Raiders, Luke attacks the third, hit.
3 R turn, 1 Raider engs Luke, 1 R2 and still C3, they attack, C3 takes 1 hit, then 1 hit, Luke blocks.
OW moves, atks up at Raider, B, Luke dares with R2, Luke attacks a R, B.
OW MTs the Raiders.
OW FPs Raider away, engs 2 Snipers and atks, kills a Sniper, Luke dares, engs Sniper atks, whiff.
R2 engs a lone Raider.

R2
C3 boosts init.
OW FPs Sniper, atks from height hit, L engs a 2nd Sniper atks, hit.
Sniper attacks Luke, 2 hits on a whiff.
OW atks a R, B, Luke kills last Sniper.
OW MTs Raiders.
OW kills a R, so does Luke.
Raiders roll an 11 for ambush, it was a 16 that rolled over, 9 man turn (only 3 left) C3 dies, R2 Bs.
R2 Leaves an eng to tie down 2 Raiders, no hit.

R3
No ambush, 6 man turn, 3 left, 3 sk v R2 whiff, 3 hits to R2, atk R2 again, atk whiff, 1 attacks up at Luke, B.
OW atks a R, whiff, Luke atks a R, hit.
3 man R turn, 2 left, R2 Bs, 2 hits to OW on whiff.
OW whiffs, L kills a R.
R whiffs.
OW is B, L re-rolls for 1 hit. Game.

Results: R2 1 life, Obi-Wan 2 lives Luke 1 life

If you can't kill pesky Luke he can clean up from afar. That 1 life accounted for the majority of the win. Still a close game though.

[Koolster25]

Anyone have thoughts or feedback?

What has been decided about the Tusken Snipers?

[Yodaking]

I think everyone is on board with releasing the Tusken Snipers along with this map when it is done. At least I have yet to see any objection to the idea. As far as feedback, I've looked over what you have and it all looks pretty good to me. It is a fairly small and straight forward scenario. I'd like to see some outside testing to confirm your feelings on it's balance as well as see a win for the Tusken team. That is what public play testing is for though. If you are happy with where it is at, you have my vote for moving forward. If public testing shows some tweaks are needed, then we can address that then.

[Porkins]

Looks like Rebels are winning pretty easily. How about increasing the starting Tusken army from 2x to 3x Raiders?

[Koolster25]

@Yodaking some outside playtests would be great @Porkins The games have been pretty close. One wound or so mid-game would've changed the outcome on every game. I have played a couple games with 9 (no form sorry, it was on the old version) but have not on this one. If playtesters would like to try games with both that's fine with me. Like Yodaking said tweaks after playtesting is part of designing.