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Gen Con 2010 Main Event Armies
Never too soon to start speculating.
Day 1: 510 points Day 2: 600, 620, or 640. My first instinct is that this is a trickier format to build in good upgrade options than last year's was. It's going to be tough to find builds that don't either play light or have some filler at at least a couple of the four point levels. Some immediate ideas: Minions 330 Minions x3 180 Major Q9 510, 11 hexes @600, add Atlaga or Raelin+Isamu. @620, add Atlaga+Marcu or Minions. @640, add Atlaga+rats, Minions+Marcu, or Raelin+Marro Warriors. Gruts & Agents 80 Raelin RotV 100 Krav Maga Agents 120 Grimnak 210 Heavy Gruts x3 510, 18 hexes @600, add Gruts + Marcu (23). @620, add Nerak + Isamu + Marro Warriors (25, sit Isamu) @640, add Nerak + Isamu + Gruts (25, sit Isamu) Braxas Ratpodges do well, right? 80 Raelin RotV 120 Deathreavers x3 210 Braxas 100 Krav Maga Agents 510, 18 hexes @600, add Marro Warriors + Isamu + Eldgrim/Guilty/Drow Chainfighter (24) @620, add Airborne Elite + Isamu (23) @640, add Greenscales x2 + Isamu (25, sit Isamu or a rat) or Airborne Elite + Marcu + Isamu (24) That's enough for now... Last edited by Jexik; April 10th, 2010 at 01:35 PM. Reason: just changed the title to be a little more clear to new posters |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
'Ware the Undead!
Zombies x5 - 300 PKs x3 - 510 24 hexes. At 600 - Add Raelin? At 620 - Add Raelin? At 640 - Add Kaemon Awa or SotM Raelin? Ignores rats, PKs cover against range, Zombies bring a special attack. Maxes out on figures though, which makes upgrading tricky. Majors and Nilfheim will still give this army trouble. It's likely not the most competitive, but I must say I really like this one. - Heroscape is a standing game. - |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
I've got about 12 or so armies in the spreadsheet but here are a few that I may or may not have.
Knights x 4 - 280 Gilbert - 385 Kaemon - 505 (18 hexes) 95 - Knights + chain / Finn or Thorgrim or Raelin + Isamu / Hawthorne 115 - Al / Finn or Thorgrim or Raelin + Eldgrim / Knights + Filler 135 - Knights + Zetacron / Eldgrim + Krav 10th x 4 - 300 Marcus - 400 AE - 510 90 - Raelin + Isamu 110 - Raelin + filler 130 - Raelin 2 + Isamu Dragon Dice - (the 2nd best game there is) Learn to Play! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3q6...wujcr8vVf8e21G |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
Nice! I really should get my brain-eating license revoked for not bringing them up. I have been meaning to play in the Zombies + PK sandbox, too... but I think the points/hexes don't work out for it, here. Zombiesx5 + PKx2 + Raelin is a nice core, but that's 520.
240 Zombies x4 80 Raelin RotV 180 Major Q9 500, 15 hexes @600, add Krav Maga Agents (18} @620, add Zombies x2 (21) @640, add PK x2 (21) Heck, I didn't bring up any of my personal favorite sorts of builds. Maybe I'm subconsciously holding them back... 220 Tor-Kul-Na 90 Marrden Nagrubs x3 80 Raelin RotV 110 Airborne Elite 500, 16 hexes @600, add Krav Maga Agents (19) @620, add Krav + Marcu (20), or Torin (18}?? @640, add Krav + Nagrubs + Isamu (23) Last edited by dok; April 5th, 2010 at 10:36 PM. |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
Riffing off Matthias's 10th/Marcus build...
80 Raelin RotV 100 Romans x2 100 MDG 225 10th x3 505, 22 hexes @595, add Ne-Gok-Sa (23) @615/620, add Ne-Gok-Sa + Marcu/Drow Chainfighter (24) @635, add Kaemon + Isamu |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
Here's an odd one:
Kelda's [A-Level] Junk Braxas - 210 Fen Hydra - 330 Kelda - 410 Krav - 510 8 Hexes At 600 - Add Raelin At 620 - Add Raelin and Marcu, or maybe Airborne Elite? At 640 - Raelin and Marro Warriors, perhaps another Hydra? OMs would seem tricky, but you lead out with Braxas if your opponent is squad heavy, or Krav if they are range heavy. Kelda is there for the Hydra as a mean clean up, but certainly can cover the 8 life Braxas as well if needed. - Heroscape is a standing game. - |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
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Raelin 4x Rats Zetacron ------------- 480/21 space is an interesting build 600/620 either- AE/Kaemon/Krug or Krav at 600 640- Could go with Q10 or 4x 4th Mass Airborne Elite Raelin ------------- 470/21 Spots and then add a 130-170 Points for Day 2 or Taelord 5x Rats Raelin ------------- 460 22 Spots-Try to win each of your matches on time Day 2-Add Kaemon/Krav or Q10 or Q9 |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
Blade Gruts
160 4x Blades 120 Grimnak 050 Nerak 080 Raelin 100 Krav 510/24 The Krav fill up the starting zone, but I wasn't sure what else to do with the last 100 points. Deathwalker 7000? Anyway the options are pretty limited for Day 2. 90 - Brandis Skyhunter? 110 - Sharwin Wildborn 130 - Deathwalker 8000? 4th Mass - Rev's army 280 4x 4th Mass 220 2x Sentinels 500 100 - Sir Denrick or Concan + Kyntela 110 - Old Drake/Alistair 140 - Old Drake/Alistair + Eldgrim Last edited by arp12; April 2nd, 2010 at 08:34 PM. |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
510 points? Not 500? I've got to do some rethinking.
(Yes, it does make a difference) |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
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I like Gruts and Agents, or a similar army with Dwarves/Mogrimm. I was really keen on 4x Greenscales, Nilfheim, Raelin, but now I'm not so sure. The army I took to Rochester a year or two ago seems neat too: 4x Stingers, Raelin, Zelrig, or maybe 3x Dwarves, Migol, Zelrig. Since Trons are maybe more unlikely than even last year, Cyprien might be a good play. Heh: 3x Knights of Weston 210 Sir Gilbert 315 Sonya 360 Cyprien 510 90- 1x KoW + Marcu.. or maybe Finn +Isamu 110 - 1x KoW + Isamu + Eldgrim 130 - 1x KoW + MW + Isamu Those aren't the best additions. Last edited by Jexik; April 2nd, 2010 at 09:20 PM. |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
Good point about the hollow offense on that one.
The Grut&Agent one is definitely the most polished one I've come up with so far. Pairing the Krav and the orcs seems natural to me, because the krav are good against the 4th/10th/trons, and the orcs don't have many other bad matchups. I don't like that combo quite as much with dwarves and Mogrimm. Although you can obviously replace Nerak+Isamu with Darrak in the upgrades, I would be worried about running dwarves (or knights) without a special attacker. I definitely like one of your suggestions: 80 Raelin RotV 240 Stingers x4 185 Zelrig 505, 15 hexes @ 595, add ratsx2 + Isamu (24) @ 615, add ratsx2 + Eldgrim/Guilty/Drow Chainfighter (24) @ 635, add stingersx2 + Isamu (22) That's a pretty nasty army. ETA: if you like my 500-point trons+PKs idea, that works well... although the only upgrade that doesn't blow is Kaemon at 620. |
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Re: 2010 Main Event Armies
Nilheim with a bonding squad in the Greenscales has played really well for me so far. I especially find it good when you wrap it in bacon, then you don't have to worry about Nilfheim falling as fast or the GW staying in Nilf's aura.
240 Greenscales x4 185 Nilfheim 80 Raelin 505, 15 Hexes @595, add Greenscales and Eldgrim @615, add AE @635, add Kaemon/Hydra |
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