C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

[dok]

To be fair, vegie has. But the complaints/debates never bother me anyway. It's good to have the discussion.

vegie's argument that I'm kind of handwaving away the essential power that makes the army work is well-taken, but when we analyze these kinds of armies for Delta we usually end up concluding that the commander is overpriced. Yes, they are essential for the army but they are not great for their points.

I recognize that on some level it's pointless to break the rankings of things like Ulginesh and Arkmer, but I think it serves as a signal of how valuable Arkmer is in the build. Nobody's going to forget to play Ulginesh.

[quozl]

Originally Posted by dok

To be fair, vegie has.

Excellent! Can you link the other power rankings threads in the OP of this one? I do think it's useful to see many perspectives.

[Foudzing]

Originally Posted by dok

To be fair, vegie has. But the complaints/debates never bother me anyway. It's good to have the discussion.

vegie's argument that I'm kind of handwaving away the essential power that makes the army work is well-taken, but when we analyze these kinds of armies for Delta we usually end up concluding that the commander is overpriced. Yes, they are essential for the army but they are not great for their points.

I recognize that on some level it's pointless to break the rankings of things like Ulginesh and Arkmer, but I think it serves as a signal of how valuable Arkmer is in the build. Nobody's going to forget to play Ulginesh.

To me you are just purposely under-rating the enabler/commander so people can try a sub-optimal build (example elves without Arkmer and constructs without Boreos) in lower tiers, which is I think a good thing actually, so forget the point I made about units being the same rank, yes it would made a more realist ranking but it would decrease variety in "X or lower" formats.

But to me if we were purely ranking figures, the enablers/commanders that are absolutely necessary to the build, should be top figure of the build, always.