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View Poll Results: Which two armies for Islandscape?
Stomp Armies 2 40.00%
Knights Three 0 0%
Dragon Soldiers 1 20.00%
Isamu and the Dragon 0 0%
Black Knights 1 20.00%
Death Knights 0 0%
Arrow Gruts 3 60.00%
Stealth Gruts 0 0%
Wolves 1 20.00%
Romans 2 40.00%
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Old May 17th, 2013, 12:58 PM
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Islandscape Army Poll

Well met!

Although yet a month and a half away, I am, of course, already building armies for
IslandScape. The format is identical to GenCon's Championship, except that there will be no Reverse the Whip, and players may bring two armies, one of which is chosen in secret, after examining the map, for each game. Possible armies (include choices within choices in textual explanation, if you wish) - choose two armies:

1. Stomp Armies


Classic Stomp
220 Tor-Kul-Na
100 Krav
90 Nagrubs x 3
30 Eldgrim
440, 15 spaces

Special Stomp
220 Tor-Kul-Na
120 Kaemon
90 Nagrubs x 3
10 Isamu
440, 13 spaces

2. Knights Three

Phantom Elite
210 PKs x 3
120 Kaemon
110 AE
440, 14
spaces

Thorian Knights
210 PKs x 3
120 Kaemon
110 Drake
440,
11 spaces

Stealth Knights
210 PKs x 3
120 Kaemon
100 Krav
10 Isamu
440, 14
spaces

3. Dragon Soldiers

Dragon Elite
185 Nilfeim
140 PKs x 2
110 AE
440 12 spaces


Thorian Dragon
185 Nilfeim
140 PKs x 2
110 Drake
440 9 spaces

4. Isamu and the Dragon

Stealth Dragon
185 Nilfeim
140 PKs x 2
100 Krav
10 Isamu
440 12 spaces

Dragon Healing
185 Nilfeim
140 PKs x 2
100 Ana
10 Isamu
440 10 spaces

5. Black Knights
210 PKs x 3
120 Black Wyrmlings x 4
110 Drake RotV
440, 14 spaces

6. Death Knights
140 PKs x 2
130 Deathcommander
100 Krav
70 Zettians
440, 12 spaces

7. Arrow Gruts
210 Heavy Gruts x 3
120 Grimnak
100 Syvarris
10 Isamu
440, 16 spaces

8. Stealth Gruts
140 Heavy Gruts x 2
120 Grimnak
100 Krav
80 Raelin
440, 14 spaces

9. Wolves
160 WoB x 2
140 Morgoloth
140 Racheim

440, 8 spaces

10. Romans

Roman Thunder
150 Romans x 3
140 Eltahale
100 Marcus
50 Me-Burq-Sa
440, 16 spaces

Imperial Dragon
185 Nilfeim
150 Romans x 3
100 Marcus
435, 15 spaces

Imperial Paralysis
185 Nilfeim
100 Romans x 2
100 Marcus
50 Me-Burq-Sa
435, 13 spaces

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Re: Islandscape Army Poll

I'm planning on bringing a competitive army and a fun army.

I was considering TKN armies as one of my armies, but I couldn't get the points/starting places to work out. With the KMA, I really like to put in Raelin1, and it just doesn't work too well.

I am thinking about a Heavy Grut army but with Tornak instead of the KMA and without Raelin.

If the starting restriction was larger, I'd probably use a Blade Grut army. The starting restrictions make it hard to play Romans as well.

I probably wouldn't do PK's because they seem to get eaten up by 10th, of which you can expect to see a few armies.

Whatever it is, I'm sure it will be fun. Looking forward to seeing you in July.
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Re: Islandscape Army Poll

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I'm planning on bringing a competitive army and a fun army.

I was considering TKN armies as one of my armies, but I couldn't get the points/starting places to work out. With the KMA, I really like to put in Raelin1, and it just doesn't work too well.

I am thinking about a Heavy Grut army but with Tornak instead of the KMA and without Raelin.

If the starting restriction was larger, I'd probably use a Blade Grut army. The starting restrictions make it hard to play Romans as well.

I probably wouldn't do PK's because they seem to get eaten up by 10th, of which you can expect to see a few armies.

Whatever it is, I'm sure it will be fun. Looking forward to seeing you in July.
I'm a bit torn. I'm pretty sure I can go 4-1 with most of the armies listed - most being stronger than my last Islandscape army (with which I went 4-1). But, if I want to win the whole thing, I wonder if I should include Q9 and/or Deathreavers and/or Raelin - the Krav and/or Nilfeim are cheezy enough. I'm actually sorry we're not doing Reverse the Whip. I'd almost certainly play Deathcommander/Zettians in some form then. Even as it is, the Death Knights

6. Death Knights
140 PKs x 2
130 Deathcommander
100 Krav
70 Zettians
440, 12 spaces

are pretty viable.

I think PKs, in combination with other things, are more dangerous than the 10th (which were in my last Islandscape army) against a wider variety of opponents, especially with the low point total with only 16 figures. I limited myself to 16 spaces in my armies. The Black Knights

210 PKs x 3
120 Black Wyrmlings x 4
110 Drake RotV
440, 14 spaces

might be better with the Krav, dropping Isamu (and 10 points).

In any event, I, too, am looking forward to seeing you, and the rest of the Long Island contingent.

P.S.: I forgot - I also recently purchased Siiv.
The Wolves

160 WoB x 2
140 Morgoloth
140 Racheim

440, 8 spaces

would be viable with
Krav/Siiv in for Racheim. Siiv would also work with

210 PKs x 3
185 Nilfeim
40 Siiv
435, 12 spaces, or

280 PKs x 4
120 Kaemon or Raelin SotM
40 Siiv
440, 14 spaces.

The Romans could also use him:

150 Romans x 3 or Romans x 2/Me-Burq-Sa or Sonja
150 Q10 or Cyprien or Syvarris/Me-Burq-Sa (17 spaces, but 16 figures w/Romans x 3)
100 Marcus
40 Siiv
440, 16 spaces



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Re: Islandscape Army Poll

I like Imperial Dragon because it reminds me of the KoW x3 + Gilbert+ Nilf build at 500pts. That army is one of my favorites, and I think this roman one would play similarly and probably do well.

Arrow grut is one I like just because I really like heavies with chompy. I don't think I like syvarris as your primary/only ranged figure, but then again, it doesn't really look like you have any other reasonable choice given the point and figure limit.

Btw, do you have greenscales? You seem to have nilf in a few of your armies, so maybe you'd consider Nilf + greenies x2 as a core for an army? That leaves you with what, 9 fig spaces and 135 points to fill?
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Re: Islandscape Army Poll

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6. Death Knights
140 PKs x 2
130 Deathcommander
100 Krav
70 Zettians
440, 12 spaces

are pretty viable.

I think PKs, in combination with other things, are more dangerous than the 10th (which were in my last Islandscape army) against a wider variety of opponents, especially with the low point total with only 16 figures. I limited myself to 16 spaces in my armies. The Black Knights

210 PKs x 3
120 Black Wyrmlings x 4
110 Drake RotV
440, 14 spaces

might be better with the Krav, dropping Isamu (and 10 points).
These are very good armies. I still think that I would prefer 10th x 3, MDG, Raelin, and filler.

As for a format where you play your own army vs RTW, I'm torn. I see the benefits of both.

I'm still surprised when I see you suggest armies with guns.
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Re: Islandscape Army Poll

I think you'd do very well with the inappropriately named Arrow Gruts. (There's no Arrow Gruts in this army...)

I'm with Rich10 in that seeing you with modern warefare figures throws me off a little.

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