The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

[tcglkn]

The Book of C3G Secret Identity Rules

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This set of rules is necessary to properly enjoy C3G units with the same name.

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Subtitles Rules Description- When you look at a C3G card for the first time, you might notice a few differences between it and an official Marvel Heroscape card. One of those is the “subtitle” or the “title below the title.” These are, more or less, secret identities and they have a very specific game use.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-

• Q: How do you determine which cards get the Crossover Symbol?
• A: There are a few guidelines were follow for that:
  1. You can clearly prove that this is a separate character from the previously designed version of the character in C3G, this can be done a variety of ways: separate wiki pages, images of them both in the same comic panel, etc
  2. mechanically these two characters in the same army does not cause any problematic combos (no different than any two characters with completely different names would be considered)
  3. there isn’t some weird comic rule where the characters absolutely cannot meet each other (causing the collapse of the timeline or multiverse).
  After that, we always apply the symbol on whatever version of the character gets designed second, we don't want to have to debate about who came first in the comics.

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

• Cover art by A3n
• Rulebook updated by tcglkn

[tcglkn]

NAMES & IDENTITIES
One of the basic traits of an Army Card is its name, listed beneath the publisher information at the top of the card. By default, a card's name is a card's identity. When creating your army, you cannot include two Unique or Event Army Cards that share an identity and a publisher, even if those two cards are otherwise different.

However, in C3G, many cards also have a secret identity, listed directly under their name. In these cases, when checking a card's identity, its secret identity is used instead of its name.

EXAMPLE: Your army currently contains a Unique Hero with the name Spider-Man and the secret identity Peter Parker. This Hero's identity is Peter Parker. This means you CAN include other cards with the name Spider-Man, as long as they have a different identity, such as Miles Morales. However, you CANNOT include other cards with the identity of Peter Parker, whether it's their name or their secret identity.

Crossover Symbol: Additionally, if the Crossover Symbol () is present near a card's identity, then you may draft it with other Unique Heroes that share an identity with it.

Common and Uncommon Identities: In rare cases, a Common or Uncommon card may share an identity with another card. While Common and Uncommon cards do have identities, they do not restrict what can be included in your army, and can be included without checking their identities against other cards.

When using the figures included in the The Conflict Begins Game Set, the following is true:
- Captain America (1/10) has the secret identity of Steve Rogers
- Incredible Hulk (2/10) has the secret identity of Bruce Banner
- Iron Man (3/10) has the secret identity of Tony Stark
- Spider-Man (4/10) has the secret identity of Peter Parker
- Silver Surfer (5/10) has the secret identity of Norrin Radd
- Abomination (6/10) has the secret identity of Emil Blonsky
- Thanos (7/10) has no secret identity
- Venom (8/10) has the secret identity of Eddie Brock
- Red Skull (9/10) has the secret identity of Johann Schmidt
- Doctor Doom (10/10) has the secret identity of Victor von Doom

Old Rules:

Spoiler Alert!

SECRET IDENTITIES (SUB TITLES)
When you look at a C3G card for the first time, you might notice a few differences between it and an official Marvel Heroscape card. One of those is the “subtitle” or the “title below the title.” These are, more or less, secret identities and they have a very specific game use.

In the official rules for Heroscape, you’re not allowed to have two Unique Heroes with the same name in your army at the same time. This rule prevents, for instance, a player from fielding both the 80-point Rise of the Valkyrie Raelin and the 120-point Swarm of the Marro Raelin simultaneously. This system works great as long as no two characters have the same name.

Enter the comic book universe! No sooner do you get to the Green Lantern Corps than you start to understand why this rule is problematic when it comes to Superheroes. What if you want Flash (Barry Allen) to fight alongside Flash (Wally West)? Well as long as both of them only have the names Flash or all your Green Lantern Corps members only have the name Green Lantern, you’re in trouble.

That’s why we introduced the character subtitles. These distinguish Batman as Bruce Wayne or as Dick Grayson, so that you can play both at once. Subtitles are considered an extension of the character name, so you’re never drafting just “Superman” into your army, you’re drafting “Superman (Kal-El)", or perhaps "Superman (Kal-L)".

So the C3G rule on subtitles is: If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and different subtitles, they are considered different units and can be in the same army at the same time. However, if the subtitle of one army card is the same as the subtitle of another Army Card or the same as the name of an Army Card without a subtitle, follow the official rule. The two cards cannot be in the same army at the same time. EXAMPLE: An army is not allowed to have one Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and one Peter Parker, but is allowed to have both a Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and a Spider-Man (Miles Morales).

If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and one has a subtitle but the other does not, the two cards may be drafted into the same army. EXAMPLE: Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) may be drafted into the same army as one or more Uncommon Star Sapphires, because the Uncommon Star Sapphires do not have a subtitle.

If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and no subtitles, follow the official rule. The two cards cannot be in the same army at the same time. EXAMPLE: Each army is allowed to have only one Annihilus, because he is a Unique Hero and he does not have a subtitle.

If two Unique or Event Army Cards have the same name, and different subtitles, they are considered different units and can be in the same army at the same time. EXAMPLE: Each army is allowed to have one Black Widow (Yelena Belova) and one Black Widow (Natalia Romanova) because their subtitles are different from one another.

Hopefully this will not only pepper a bit more theme into your games but also keep your army options as open and exciting as they should be in the world of SuperHeroscape!

[A3n]

PDF added to OP.

Cheers

[Griffin]

Looks Great.

[Confred]

I understand the rule and recognize it's uses.

There is conflict however. Not with C3G standalone - but, C3G is massively popular and clarification is perhaps justified. This is difficult for me to word. Hopefully I won't butcher it.
The area where Secret Identities are listed is the same area where Group Affiliations are listed officially.
I'd like for them both to exist somehow.

[Lord Pyre]

C3G doesn't use team/general affiliations, so it doesn't matter.

[johnny139]

Nor did the official Marvel releases, for that matter.

[MegaSilver]

Originally Posted by Lord Pyre

C3G doesn't use team/general affiliations, so it doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by johnny139

Nor did the official Marvel releases, for that matter.

A lot of the other Superhero customs use them, though. Which is probably where your confusion stems from.

[Dysole]

Does C3G follow the rule of can't be in the same army even if they are now currently dead.

e.g. Army 1 has Poison Ivy and Superman (I). Army 2 has Superman (I). Army 2 kills Army 1's Superman and then Poison Ivy rolls a 17 on her Seduction for Army 2's Superman. Does Army 1 get Superman or not? Just curious as this could come up in a game I am playing in the near future.

~Dysole, hatching chickens

[MegaSilver]

Well, if it follows Classic Scape ruling, the answer is no.

[SirGalahad]

You are correct.

[Ronin]

FAQ from the FAQ thread:

Q: Do the Hasbro Superscape figures follow C3G's Secret Identity rules? For example, is Hasbro's Spider-Man's name considered to be simply "Spider-Man"?

A: When using the Hasbro Superscape figures in C3G, the Hasbro figures are considered to have their thematic Secret Identities, as follows:

• Abomination is considered to have a Secret Identity of Emil Blonsky
• Captain America's Secret Identity is Steve Rogers
• Doctor Doom's is Victor Von Doom
• Incredible Hulk is Bruce Banner
• Iron Man is Tony Stark
• Red Skull is Johann Schmidt
• Silver Surfer is Norrin Radd
• Spider-Man is Peter Parker
• Thanos has no Secret Identity
• Venom is Eddie Brock

Also, the rules here are slightly out of date. We've already got that "later" version of Batman with Dick Grayson behind the cowl that they're talking about.