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Old June 21st, 2006, 06:36 AM
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I love Roland, I am not big on bringing in heroes from movies and such. I do not like superheroes and starwars guys on my Heroscape board. This I will make an exception for . Roland is one of my favorite all time characters. Great work man.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 09:25 AM
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Will you make an updated card with the figure too? He seems to warrant it. Ok I see you changed the target pic but will you add the figure to the main picture area?

Also what exactly is the rationale behind the "Death, But Not For You..." ability? Does he trade places with someone whenever he goes through a dimensional door? Sorry if I sound ignorant but the Dark Tower series is one I have not read.
I was thinking about changing the image for the figure image, but in some ways leaving the image that is there works better, because that way people can use any figure and still know who the character is. That particular image contains a lot of elements from the books that are very important (the tower, the rose, the gunslinger, etc.), so people instantly recognize it.

Hmm. Regarding the door, he does not change places with someone, but goes go to another world. Let's just say that in the Dark Tower there are "other worlds than these". The Dark Tower series is one of the best fantasy series written in a long time. It is worth checking out.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 10:00 AM
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I love Roland, I am not big on bringing in heroes from movies and such. I do not like superheroes and starwars guys on my Heroscape board. This I will make an exception for . Roland is one of my favorite all time characters. Great work man.
Thankee-sai, for making an exception; I take that as high praise.

It is a shame more people won't know the character until they finally make a film adaptation of the books.
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Roland a cowboy? Wasn't he a knight of the round table? Great mod, Annerios! Hmmm....now to find a suitable mini for the card. I agree leaving the picture on the card to allow alternate figures to be used since it is a true "custom" mini. BTW, Christmas is coming and a Roland figure in the mail would be a nice present (hint, hint).









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Old June 21st, 2006, 11:23 AM
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Roland a cowboy? Wasn't he a knight of the round table? Great mod, Annerios! Hmmm....now to find a suitable mini for the card. I agree leaving the picture on the card to allow alternate figures to be used since it is a true "custom" mini. BTW, Christmas is coming and a Roland figure in the mail would be a nice present (hint, hint).
Just kidding!

Man, if I started making all of the figures you'd want my hands and eyes would be worse off than those of Santa's slaves. Err..Umm..I mean elves. :P


The cool thing is I have King Arthur and Roland now, so they can fight side by side! I am going to draft those two with some knights of weston and the 4th Mass Line for one hell of a "good guy" army.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 02:11 PM
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King Arthur plus Roland looks to be a pretty cool army. Somehow those two seem to fit together although one is a cowboy and the other is a knight!

So if Roland simply escapes from a door why does the ability on his card cause a new figure to appear on the board? Sorry for asking the same question again but I'm still unsure of how this is supposed to work. I wonder if wikipedia would say... *ponders*

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Old June 21st, 2006, 02:29 PM
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King Arthur plus Roland looks to be a pretty cool army. Somehow those two seem to fit together although one is a cowboy and the other is a knight!

So if Roland simply escapes from a door why does the ability on his card cause a new figure to appear on the board? Sorry for asking the same question again but I'm still unsure of how this is supposed to work. I wonder if wikipedia would say... *ponders*
Ther are very strong connections between Roland and Arthur.

Well, in theory, the door could open anywhere. There are doors on alternate versions of earth that lead to the world Roland is from which is like our own, but different.

In terms of why it does that on the card, it is a game mechanic to simulate the possible uncertainty of stepping through some doors. Nasty things can on the other side or something good.

I like using drawback mechanics on some cards and one thing about Roland is that the people who align themselves with him don't often survive. It was a way to work that sort of curse that hangs over him into a card; plus, it makes him survive and that is important because of who he is.

Don't spoil the books on Wiki. Read them or better yet, listen to them on the audio CD's (which are awesome). You will be in for a hell of a ride.
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Ahh ok. So Roland is not the only one who can go through a door and its possible someone on the other side will enter through the door. Got it.

Also I had thought there might be a connection between Roland and Arthur when you said you wanted to put them together but since I have not read the books I decided I should not make such an assumption. Any sign of Merlin in the books? Or any other Knight of the Round Table for that matter?

Hrm. Mods of Lancelot or the Green Knight would probably be fun.

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Ahh ok. So Roland is not the only one who can go through a door and its possible someone on the other side will enter through the door. Got it.

Also I had thought there might be a connection between Roland and Arthur when you said you wanted to put them together but since I have not read the books I decided I should not make such an assumption. Any sign of Merlin in the books? Or any other Knight of the Round Table for that matter?

Hrm. Mods of Lancelot or the Green Knight would probably be fun.
There are allusions to Merlin and others. The best way to describe it is that in Roland's world the gunslingers were the knights. Roland is the last.

There is a lot of Arthurian lore, Lord of the Rings references, Wizard of Oz references and many more things brought into these books. In fact, many of King's others novels make references to the Dark Tower books and vice versa. In some instances characters from his other works are included in this series. If you read Salem's Lot, for example, you are in for quite surprise in the later books.
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few thoughts:

1) Roland's ability probably requires the biggest effort to satisfy of any custom ability in the game.
Having a stack of your Large and smaller units to pick randomly from, ready whenever he is eliminated, is quite the effort! Kudos for your balls in making that ability (especially if it matches the theme/background of the character).

2) What figure did you use for Garet Jax? I don't know if it was mentioned, but could it be edited into the display of his card? Thx.

3) The zombies need more power to warrant their high cost (50 points). With only 1 defense, they will go down like flies. I like the re-spwan ability - the best I've seen for any zombie unit, and easy to distinguish (Human card type). But from a bang-for-buck standpoint, they are only worth at best 30 to 40 points per 4 figs. If you made them 3 attack, and 40 points, they MIGHT see some play, as a alternative to Frenzy (but are so slow they still wouldn't be as good).
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Old June 21st, 2006, 06:21 PM
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few thoughts:

1) Roland's ability probably requires the biggest effort to satisfy of any custom ability in the game.
Having a stack of your Large and smaller units to pick randomly from, ready whenever he is eliminated, is quite the effort! Kudos for your balls in making that ability (especially if it matches the theme/background of the character).
The person who drafts him gets the punishment of having the cards ready. Roland gives you benefits, but can be a burden.
The moment when you have to draw that card is a scary one. You have to be careful where he is on the board when he is close to taking that last wound.

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2) What figure did you use for Garet Jax? I don't know if it was mentioned, but could it be edited into the display of his card? Thx.
It is a Mage Knight Venthian Assassin figure. You can find it here:

http://gamingetc.safeshopper.com/1556/15637.htm?333

It was modded and painted to fit the character. Rhydderch made his Garet with that figure and sent me a photo. It came out real nice. He posed him a little differently than I did.

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3) The zombies need more power to warrant their high cost (50 points). With only 1 defense, they will go down like flies. I like the re-spwan ability - the best I've seen for any zombie unit, and easy to distinguish (Human card type). But from a bang-for-buck standpoint, they are only worth at best 30 to 40 points per 4 figs. If you made them 3 attack, and 40 points, they MIGHT see some play, as a alternative to Frenzy (but are so slow they still wouldn't be as good).
They work well when used in large numbers and on roads, since they are so slow. We use them with a custom unit Truth created named Rhastghoul that gives them +2 to attack when adjacent.

The other aspect of them that can be used to your advantage is the fact that they can only be hit in the head. Players use the terrain to try to hide their heads behind other figures, etc and that helps them. They are a specialist unit, since if your opponent does not have many human figures, there is little point in drafting them. The same applies if there are no roads or if the map is too large. They work better on small maps. I'm ok with those kind of niche units though.

This is a card I intend to revisit because I want to change the figure images to include some of those nice Horrorclix zombies. I'll keep your suggestions in mind.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 07:37 PM
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2) What figure did you use for Garet Jax?
The Venthian Assassin is pretty easy to come by and is the same figure Truth has proposed for use with Knoll by Turtleboy.

Here is the Garet Jax card with the figure I made:



I took the picture from the front because most of the HS cards have the figures from the front or at an angle. I think the figure looks quite a bit better than it turned out on the card but oh well.

As for how to make the figure I just took Annerios advice:

Cut off the dagger and the snout on the Venthian Assassin. Add a sword to the raised arm and a staff to the lower hand. Paint the clothes black. Mold a cloak out of epoxy or other model material. I used some Paper clay for this. Since the Venthian Assassin is a girl you may want to take your knife to the chest region or plaster over it with some more clay. Finally I had cut my figure in half at the waist and swivelled the figure to face forward more. In retrospect I think Annerios was right to keep the original pose.

And as long as I'm on the topic thanks again Annerios for the card and the instructions on how to make the figure!

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