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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

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Cool cards.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

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SHINING SWORD ATTACK
After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may either attack:
with his normal attack against an adjacent figure, rolling 1 fewer attack die; or,
with his Burning Attack Special Attack.
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Old May 3rd, 2022, 08:55 PM
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Is the bolded part doing anything here?


BURNING ATTACK SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 4.
After an opponent rolls defense dice against this special attack, you may Knockback the defending figure by placing it on an empty space exactly X spaces from its current position, where X is the number of skulls rolled in the attack. A figure moved by this special attack never takes any leaving engagement attacks but can receive any falling damage that may apply.

Like it has "Knockback" capitalized like it's a game mechanic but it really isnt (and even if it was the power immediately defines everything you're doing). So it seems like it's just extra words for no reason.

Like this tells you the same thing:

After an opponent rolls defense dice against this special attack, you may place that figure on an empty space exactly X spaces from its current position, where X is the number of skulls rolled in the attack. A figure moved by this special attack never takes any leaving engagement attacks but can receive any falling damage that may apply.


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Agree that it is not needed here at all.
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Yea Once I get this updated. Lol
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

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Agree that it is not needed here at all.
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Not really sure what this line is trying to accomplish? So the attacking player suddenly mind controls the figure and has it run straight into a wall? Should probably use the knockback language from Shocker and Vibe.
Hmmmm...
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VIBROSHOCK KNOCKBACK
When Shocker attacks using his normal attack, he may attack one additional time. After an opponent rolls defense dice against Shocker's normal attack, if the defending figure is within 4 clear sight spaces of Shocker, you may Knockback the defending figure by placing it on an empty space up to X spaces from its current position. X is equal to the number of skulls rolled in the attack. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks and cannot be placed closer to Shocker than its original placement. A figure moved by this special power can receive any falling damage that may apply.
Not sure we really need to change that. It's a direct deviation from precedent.

As to that change to the SSA, I'm flat against that as the power is essentially just Swordplay but with a slight twist.
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If Swordsman attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack and at least one skull is rolled, he may attack an adjacent figure again. He may continue attacking adjacent figures, rolling 1 fewer attack die for each subsequent attack, until you fail to roll a skull.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

I mean, the precedent from Vibroshock Knockback would be more like "you may Burning Attack that dude" or something. Since presumably the capital Knockback there is referring to the name of the power. Since there isnt a game mechanic or anything called Knockback to refer to.

But I think that line is equally as pointless on Shocker and we shouldn't be forced to do dumb things now becuase someone did a dumb thing in the past (or copied a dumb thing in this case, I'm pretty sure Shocker gets that from the Classicscape Fire Giant dude).

Or like if we're going to keep "you may Knockback" we'd need to like define what about those words is making the power different than the other 99% of yeeting powers that dont use that phrase.


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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

Both He-man and All Might also use this Knockback language, but not in their power names.

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Doesn't mean that we need to continue to use language that does nothing.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

For sure. He-Man did it to follow the precedent of Shocker, but if it doesn't accomplish anything, no problems with trimming it, IMO.

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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future) (Vote for On-Deck)

Like I was told before I overcame my crippling LSD addiction, its never too late to stop making poor life choices.

Using "you may Knockback" as some sort of 'keyword' (that doesn't do anything since everything you do is then spelled out right after) definitely seems like some sorta misinterpretation of classic scape lingo.

Like Shurrak has a power called Knockback that says "you may Knockback". But... before that Jotun had a power called Throw that said "you may throw" (no caps that time because Classic is all over the place).

A few different classic powers pointlessly shout out their own names like they're Pokemon or something for no reason. Doesn't make those shout outs 'keywords'.

Shocker's power still has the word knockback in it, so it sorta works. But it really should have been "you may Vibroshock Knockback" technically. But then other powers still saying "Knockback" is definitely a mistake. Beyond being pointless to say in the first place.

Like Cyprien's Chilling Touch says "you may attempt a Chilling Touch". Doesn't mean all autowound powers should say that as some sorta keyword. If anything they'd say "you may attempt a (whatever this power is called)" but they shouldn't be saying anything at all.


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