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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

Definitely something I'm willing to adjust as we go forward. I figured it might be something like that, but with so many that can cast votes for things at this stage I was a bit worried I wasn't seeing some concern or something.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

Spies do tend to actually be a little annoying to get engaged. That blank never seems to come up for me, so something like this could hopefully help.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

Some way to get an in-house Zatanna II effect would massively boost the Kryptonians, probably.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

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Some way to get an in-house Zatanna II effect would massively boost the Kryptonians, probably.
That would be neat, but I'm not sure this is the right place for that kind of an effect.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the cost a little higher given how strong Kryptonians already tend to be. The disengage and attack boost will be a nice support.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Vote for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Initial Playtesting)

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Ursa (Spymaster)

Version Tested:
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 210-230
- Give a brief overview. It was really cool seeing the Infiltrators have such a strong impact here. Seems like Superman (JL II) and Ursa make a pretty good combo for them.
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Ursa (Spymaster), Superboy II, Superman (JLA II), Jimmy Olsen, Kelex, 3xKryptonian Infiltrators (1,400) vs Blasck Bolt, Medusa, Crystal, Gorgon, Lockjaw (1,400)
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 230-240
- Give a brief overview. This was brutal. It probably has a lot to do with the the Thunderbolts not really having many answers for Kryptonian Defense but I'm gonna bump her up to 230 going forward.
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Ursa (Spymaster), General Zod, Superboy II, 2xKryptonian Soldiers (1,200) vs Songbird, Citizen V, Mach-I, Techno, Meteorite, Atlas (1,200)
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Version Tested:
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .

- What should be the unit's point value? 340?
- Give a brief overview. This seemed better but still an uphill battle for the Asgardian Warriors who should have been able to perform better but after losing Balder the Kryptonians kept blocking the greater attacks and tearing through the Asgardian's defenses.
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Ursa (Spymaster), Zod, Superman (JL II), Superboy II, 1xInfiltrator, Kellex, 3xSoldier (2,000) vs Balder, Sif, Thor, Fandral, Hogun, Volstagg (2,000)
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Version Tested:
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 250?
- Give a brief overview. This was super cool and felt super evocative of a Spy Network since you can now guarantee engagement before round 1 and that lets you maneuver your forces. I have some changes in mind to mellow them out some more but I think they overall feel better.
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Ursa (Spymaster), Zod, Superman (JL II), Superboy II, 1xInfiltrator, Kellex, 3xSoldier (2,000) vs Balder, Sif, Thor, Fandral, Hogun, Volstagg (2,000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think she is trending upwards slightly due to the extra mobility and defense/offense she now offers so I have a few changes in mind.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: She was cool before the change, but the change really sells her theme and gives her a factional purpose.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Initial Playtesting)

I'm thinking we may need to tone them down as a faction somehow. As right now they pack a lot of punch and she just keeps moving them in close for the whammy.

LV did brainstorm this power which I liked. Would probably drop Priority Target for it to really sell the theme of her coordinating the spies.
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Start the game with one combat die on this card showing a blank. Once per turn when combat dice are rolled for a friendly Kryptonian, you may remove a blank from this card to add a blank to whatever is rolled. After rolling attack dice for a Spy you control, you may subtract one blank rolled to place a combat die showing blank on this card.
Though I sort of wonder if we couldn't do it more Dr. Fate style where you roll a die at the start and then go from there.

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Initial Playtesting)

I wouldn't want to go too over the top with the effect, especially if you're trying to tone her down. Maybe make it so she can steal blanks from a Spy you control or a figure engaged with a Spy you control?

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Initial Playtesting)

It's less that I'm trying to tone her down (that would likely require dropping the middle power as she hasn't left the SZ much or had a direct effect on the battle which is thematic) than change direction a little. I'm trying to alter the way it is played, or at least encourage it. Ideally, I think you should want to lead with the Spies so maybe something that gives them a bonus for being engaged already?

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Re: The Book of Ursa (Spymaster) (Initial Playtesting)

Put me down for liking that take. Giving the Kryptonians an “in house” blank generator would be fun.

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