Custom Rules for Multi-Based Figures

GreyOwl · #1 July 20th, 2007, 12:29 PM

Some of the customs I've been working on and/or thinking about are large enough that they won't fit on a single double base (Galactus and Sentinels, for example). It's also not very feasible to create a single large base for the figure to be on like in 2-D miniature games because the 3-D Heroscape terrain makes it almost impossible to place them anywhere or to move them. Galactus would require something like a 5x5 base.

So what I was thinking is to use 2 bases, one on each foot. The way the rules would be modified to support this is to say that both bases do not have to be on the same level, with some restrictions. For every 20 height of the figure, the two bases can be one unit of height difference from each other. So a figure with a height of 20 can have each foot one height difference from each other. A figure with a height of 40 can have each foot two height difference from each other. When it comes to any calculation that requires knowing the elevation of the base, like for height advantages, you always use the lower one.

Any comments or suggestions on this?

IAmBatman · #2 July 20th, 2007, 12:39 PM

Won't the tall figures fall over if they aren't resting on even ground?

GreyOwl · #3 July 20th, 2007, 12:54 PM

The ones that are around 20 high, like Sentinels, do just fine leaning a bit. One tile elevation isn't too high. Galactus, who can have up to two elevation changes should be fine, too. The specific Galactus figure I have bends his knees so that can help. But even without that, I don't think he'd fall over. He'll just lean a little.

rdhight · #4 July 21st, 2007, 01:57 AM

Another thing you could do is to use regular tiles to shim under the foot that's resting on lower ground.

IAmBatman · #5 July 21st, 2007, 01:59 AM

So, besides the uneven elevation thing, would there be any other rules to consider when moving figures on two bases like that? Would they be moving on two single bases or two double bases?

hi1hi1hi1hi1 · #6 July 21st, 2007, 02:00 AM

To go with IAmBatman, how would you determine momement. For double base you lead with one end and the other follows how would you do that in this situation.

IAmBatman · #7 July 21st, 2007, 02:03 AM

It'd definitely get tricky when it came to things like water or special terrain that affects movement too. Not to mention you'd have to be dodging figures all the time - could you move so that a figure was (God, how to say this without it sounding wrong ...) between the giant figure's, er, feet? Like with one foot placed on each side of the figure?
Or is the giant figure going to end up headbutted in the nether

regions?

hi1hi1hi1hi1 · #8 July 21st, 2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman

It'd definitely get tricky when it came to things like water or special terrain that affects movement too. Not to mention you'd have to be dodging figures all the time - could you move so that a figure was (God, how to say this without it sounding wrong ...) between the giant figure's, er, feet? Like with one foot placed on each side of the figure?
Or is the giant figure going to end up headbutted in the nether

regions?

I guessed that the feet would have to stay X spaces away with figures all up in the nether region, as long as they fit.

I think it becomes very complicated to word the movement for these type of figures.

IAmBatman · #9 July 21st, 2007, 02:12 AM

I'm just imagining some very strange versions of "engagement" here ...

hi1hi1hi1hi1 · #10 July 21st, 2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I'm just imagining some very strange versions of "engagement" here ...

Woah, playing the Q9 army in my PtV thread has gotten too me. Imagine 16 Gladiatrons adjacent to the figure with 4 Blastatron attacks of 18! Wow.

GreyOwl · #11 July 21st, 2007, 07:29 AM

I haven't worked it all out yet. But here's what I'm thinking. Whether each foot is a single or double base depends on the figure and what it fits on. For moving across water, I would think the same as double spaced figures. They only need to stop if all parts of all bases, are in the water. Engagement would mean that any part of either base is adjacent to a figure. I guess this means its possible for these giants to be engaged to a LOT of figures at once. I don't see a problem with another figure being between the feet of the giant, as long as it fits. But it wouldn't be engaged unless it is adjacent to one of the bases.

IAmBatman · #12 July 21st, 2007, 10:59 AM

Sounds like you've got this pretty well thought out already! Keep up the good work.

I think what this thread really needs are some pictures of these two based giant figures to illustrate.