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Old May 5th, 2020, 03:51 PM
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

I mean in the same sense that Wolves of Badru's SA is sometimes better than Quiglex? Q10 is clearly outclassed by the other A figures. I'm way more scared of Kaemon than Q10. No one took Q10 in either of the two bring the cheese tournaments in the past month. I think he's A- or even B+. 5 defense just isn't that good for 150 points. But anyway. Different conversation.
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

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I mean in the same sense that Wolves of Badru's SA is sometimes better than Quiglex? Q10 is clearly outclassed by the other A figures. I'm way more scared of Kaemon than Q10. No one took Q10 in either of the two bring the cheese tournaments in the past month. I think he's A- or even B+. 5 defense just isn't that good for 150 points. But anyway. Different conversation.
Basically this. It’s also different from moving down Q9 because Q10 isn’t an A in the original rankings. The argument isn’t that he should be moved down, it’s that he should never have been moved up.

Last edited by OrcElfArmyOne; May 5th, 2020 at 04:19 PM. Reason: And I don’t disagree that Q9 could probably move down in a VC meta.
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

Situations where Q10's specials beat Q9's:
  • Attacking a multi-life figure within 4 spaces with 4 or more defense
  • Attacking 1-life figure(s) within 4 spaces with 6 or more defense
  • When being 7 spaces away is better than being 6 spaces away and the target isn't super high defense
These are not some crazy niche; they are all fairly common situations. Sure, Q9's is better most of the time but its not that unusual for Q10's options to be better.

I personally think Q10>Kaemon even given the price difference. I agree Q10 is on the low end of the A's but I still think it's the right place. Q10 would see a lot more play if Q9 didn't exist, but Q9's existence doesn't make Q10 bad.
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

I mean Q10 is similarly hurt by the existence of Cultists and Heracles and Marutuk, so. I agree with Orc that it probably was not the right place to begin with but I think it's even more true now with so much anti-large huge special attacking figures.
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I mean in the same sense that Wolves of Badru's SA is sometimes better than Quiglex? Q10 is clearly outclassed by the other A figures. I'm way more scared of Kaemon than Q10. No one took Q10 in either of the two bring the cheese tournaments in the past month. I think he's A- or even B+. 5 defense just isn't that good for 150 points. But anyway. Different conversation.
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

Q10 is better than Kaemon, but he's a little too expensive.

These days I would personally take Incendiborgs over Q9, I think.

Your custom probably has too much Defense.
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