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The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

C3G MARVEL WAVE 34
WEB OF VENOM



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Hammer of Thor set.
Its model number and name are #038 / Venom.

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Character Bio - After years of being the Scorpion, Mac Gargan was more of a punchline than a threat. So he bonded with the Venom symbiote to become a bigger, stronger, meaner punchline than ever before. As the new Venom, Gargan was more ferocious, more powerful and more unhinged than his predecessor. He was also dumber than a box of rocks, but he achieved some success by hitching his wagon to Norman Osborn's star. As Osborn's flunky, he was a member of the Sinister Twelve, then the Thunderbolts, and eventually even the "Avengers" lead by Norman Osborn's supposedly-heroic alter ego, Iron Patriot.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
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Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • As a figure with a secret identity, Venom interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a Symbiote, Venom interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a Ferocious Criminal, Venom interacts differently with these special powers and may allow an opponent's Aaron Cash to boost his movement with his Action Reflexes special power.
  • As a figure with the Super Strength special power, Venom interacts differently with these special powers.
  • Venom's Cannibal Craving special power does not allow him to heal after destroying Androids with his normal attack, or take an additional turn after destroying a Common or Squad figure.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
  • Initial playtest: MrNobody
  • Second playtest: Arch-vile
  • Third playtest: Ronin
  • Art: Comic, Figure, Background
  • Art by Soundwarp SG-1
  • Mac Gargan created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko; Venom created by David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane; Mac Gargan as Venom introduced by Mark Millar and Terry Dodson
  • Comic art by Mike Deodato

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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

NAME = VENOM
SECRET IDENTITY = MAC GARGAN

SPECIES = SYMBIOTE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMINAL
PERSONALITY = FEROCIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 245


COLLATERAL DAMAGE 15
After Venom is moved by any player, that player must choose a figure adjacent to Venom and roll the 20-sided die, adding 3 to the roll if they do not permanently control Venom. If they roll 15 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound.

CANNIBAL CRAVING
If Venom destroys a figure other than an Android or a destructible object with his normal attack, you may remove 1 Wound Marker from this card. If the destroyed figure was a Unique Hero or Event Hero, you may take one additional turn with Venom.

EXPERT CLIMBING
When moving up levels of height to move onto a space with Venom, do not count spaces for the first two levels and only count one space for each two levels after the first two. You may ignore Venom's height of 6 when climbing. Venom never takes falling damage or major falling damage.

SUPER STRENGTH

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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

Art stuff

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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

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I might? Take a look in my album (linked in the first post of the photo depository). If not, I can provide.
Last time I went in your mini photo post, I went missing for 3 days.

Thanks, updated with the pics.
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Last time I went in your mini photo post, I went missing for 3 days.

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I might? Take a look in my album (linked in the first post of the photo depository). If not, I can provide.
Last time I went in your mini photo post, I went missing for 3 days.

Thanks, updated with the pics.
Eh. Bring snacks, you'll be fine.
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Last time I went in your mini photo post, I went missing for 3 days.

Thanks, updated with the pics.
Eh. Bring snacks, you'll be fine.
And water. Stay hydrated people. Dehydration just as much an issue in the winter.

Design looks good.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

For power ordering, I would go Collateral Damage -> Cannibal Craving -> Expert Climbing. (I know we're not super consistent about where movement powers like Expert Climbing go, but I prefer them at the bottom.)

Numbers can be tweaked obviously, but I think he's good for testing.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

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I might? Take a look in my album (linked in the first post of the photo depository). If not, I can provide.
Last time I went in your mini photo post, I went missing for 3 days.

Thanks, updated with the pics.
Eh. Bring snacks, you'll be fine.
And water. Stay hydrated people. Dehydration just as much an issue in the winter.

Design looks good.
When you fall down a bottomless pit ... you die of hunger.

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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

Actually this should be the order: Expert Climbing > Collateral Damage > Cannibal Craving.

Per the Aesthetics guide movement powers go first barring no start of round or start of game power.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan)

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Actually this should be the order: Expert Climbing > Collateral Damage > Cannibal Craving.

Per the Aesthetics guide movement powers go first barring no start of round or start of game power.

I would probably also drop Expert Climbing to the bottom, like Johnny. Chronological order is the logical default, but it's not always going to be the best way to present information.

Reused powers have a way of dropping to the bottom of the card. Not always the case, and largely depends on the LD. SirG would definitely put Expert Climbing up top (see Lizard/Scorpion) but you could find counter-examples on cards like Wendigo (Cannibal Craving before Super Leap) or Doctor Octopus (Expert Climbing after everything else).

Hasbro cards also do what I'm talking about, if you look at The Conflict Begins: they'd drop Flying to the bottom, but put the then-rare movement powers (Stealth Flying, Super Leap, Swing Line) higher on the card. I think we use Expert Climbing enough that it's a stock power and drops to the bottom of the card, but YMMV.
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