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Old November 18th, 2021, 11:40 AM
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]

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I thought of one.



N = Ninja
O = Opponent's Figure

Since neither of the 2 engaged ninjas can target the center opponent's figure the unengaged ninja uses METSUBUSHI SA against the center figure to effect the ones that are engaged. Then you get 2 defense drops instead of just 1.

You'd still probably prefer 3 normal attacks but that's not the point.
Great point, at that rate it might as well be range 1. The ninja build is already weak enough as it is so they'll need to maximize their attacks.
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]

@Vydar_XLIII I couldn’t tell if you got this from your comments, but I do believe the ninjas are intended to be able to use their SA in addition to all three normal attacks.
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]

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@Vydar_XLIII I couldn’t tell if you got this from your comments, but I do believe the ninjas are intended to be able to use their SA in addition to all three normal attacks.
I think what he's insinuating is since the SA is before attacking, a ninja that would use the SA from range will be unable to attack afterward. 12th Caucasus don't have to worry about that because their base range allows them to follow up the grenade with a normal attack.
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[MENTION=6070]Vydar_XLIII[/MENTION] I couldn’t tell if you got this from your comments, but I do believe the ninjas are intended to be able to use their SA in addition to all three normal attacks.
I think what he's insinuating is since the SA is before attacking, a ninja that would use the SA from range will be unable to attack afterward. 12th Caucasus don't have to worry about that because their base range allows them to follow up the grenade with a normal attack.
Correct. I understand they get 3 normal attacks afterwards. I'm arguing that the Range of 3 doesn't make sense because if all 3 activated Ninjas are engaged to targets they plan to attack, then they can't use METSUBUSHI at range.

Andre, you could make it so METSUBUSHI can attack things while being engaged. Like J15's GUIDED CANNONS SA.

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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]

What if you chose three spaces in a straight line to be affected?
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What if you chose three spaces in a straight line to be affected?
I'm envisioning a smoke bomb, does 3 spaces in a row make sense?

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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]

Based on my limited understanding of the theme, I think historically this was more often powder or sand thrown in opponent’s eyes, which I think would make sense for a line style aoe?
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Based on my limited understanding of the theme, I think historically this was more often powder or sand thrown in opponent’s eyes, which I think would make sense for a line style aoe?
It's hard for me to imagine a non fire-based ability affecting a straight line in scape
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