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Old October 2nd, 2021, 06:02 AM
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

Initials posted.

I think he could either come down a little in points(170?), or bring his life back up to 5? With Audacious Avenger and Relentless Resolve both hurting his own life to benefit from, he falls really quick, both times, especially if the enemy prioritizes him.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

Liking where this has gone - sorry I didn't get a chance to weigh in yesterday. I'd be fine with either the life going back up or a points drop, looking over the tests.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

It'd be cool to have a cheaper Avenger, but either change sounds good to me.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Initial Playtest)

Ok, let’s try him at 170.

I propose a vote to move to Public Testing.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Public Playtes

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Public Playtes

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Vote 4 Public Playtes

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Public Playtest)

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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Public Playtest)

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Originally Posted by Ericth74
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Your designs have been some of my favorite to playtest and I try to jump on them as often as I can. This one though, just didn't work for me and how I like to play. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Looking forward to the next Avengers design you put up.

Eric





C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Moon Knight

Version tested:
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Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Luke Cage, Ronin, Iron Fist, Moon Knight VS Wrecking Crew
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Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Captain America 240, Hawkeye 220, Black Widow 170, Black Panther 200, Moon Knight 170 VS Star Lord 250, Rocket Racoon 175, Groot 275, Gamora 300
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 170 just feels too high to me. Especially if you compare him to v1. Version 1 has 5 life, 5 defense and the ability to do 2 auto wounds. That feels like a better value to me and would be the Moon Knight I would draft.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: It may be my play style but I just don't know what to do with this Moon Knight. In game one I used him to attempt to protect Luke Cage. My opponent just decided to just attack Moon Knight instead. So in a sense he kind of saved Cage from wounds. I feel he also limited Cages movement because I wanted them to be adjacent to each other. When he bonded with other figures he was stuck staying next to Moon Knight or I would have to take a turn with Moon Knight instead of better offensive options. Game 2 I had he stick with Hawkeye where he cold move and then Hawkeye could also move and attack and end his turn adjacent to Moon Knight. I don't know how well this would have worked as Hawkeye blocked every attack he faced, so Moon Knight never took any wounds for him. In theory I feel it was a good plan. In game 1 he did rise from the dead but I feel like he should of been able to move unrevealed order markers to his card. I couldn't really take advantage of placement as I had to place him far away so they couldn't get free attacks on him. I think its an interesting take but it doesn't work for my play style.
I sent him some follow up clarifying questions on if he placed Moon Knight before the last figure was tech. destroyed, thus allowing you to absorb those wounds with Moon Knight if it is the best option in the moment.

That said, we could bump his life up to 5 and stay at 170, seeing if that helps. As I said before, all of his powers sort of hinge on him taking damage, mostly self inflicted, so upping that ceiling for him might see him feel more worth it as a protector and clutch attacker. Also wouldn't mind adding in an OM save if necessary.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Public Playtest)

@IAmBatman let me know if you've started any testing. If not, may work in a tweak here and have you run that, otherwise I can always follow up with a couple games to get a feel if needed. I don't think much change is needed here.

We could do:
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LIFE = 5

RISE WITH THE MOON
Once per game, when the last friendly figure would receive enough wounds to be destroyed, if Moon Knight is currently destroyed, immediately remove all Wound Markers from this card and place Moon Knight on an empty space on the battlefield. You may then move any unrevealed Order Markers on cards in your army to this card.
Let me know if anyone has any thoughts/preferences on if we do either or both of those tweaks.
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Re: The Book of Moon Knight (Avenger) (Public Playtest)

Look like good changes to me
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