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Old May 10th, 2022, 09:41 AM
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

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Could always do something similar to the Animated Vines, where the Darklings are considered a shadow tile for other special powers that refer to shadow tiles. Or spaces adjacent to them are considered shadow tiles for special powers on other figures you control.
I'm a fan of this idea. Gives the Darklings the offensive utility without adding another tie in power on The Darkness.
Yeah, that's a neat idea.

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Nothing wrong with the Darklings eating the points anyway. I don't think either is intended to be super playable by themselves, so it's basically one unit stretched out over two cards.

I'm still curious if there's a plan for the keyword in the first power, though?
Are you referring to the Artifact Bearer power? If so the plan is to giving each future character in the faction an Artifact Bearer power. Some having powers that can interact with other Artifact Bearers.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. I wasn't aware this guy had a faction! I thought it was pretty much just him and the Darklings.

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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

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Here's a couple of ideas for what that could look like:
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Whenever a special power on an Army Card refers to a shadow space or tile, it refers to the Darklings as well.

All spaces on or within one space of a Darkling are considered to be shadow spaces for any special power on an Army Card you control.
This is a really good idea, but I think each Darkling counting as 7 Shadow spaces is probably too good, so I would stick with the blue one here but that would certainly make them very useful as moving shadows for Darkness.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

Yeah, just being one shadow tile with all the other connections they'll have seems like plenty.

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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

Plus it will let you easily test this design on his own and then the Darklings are purely an add-on and could even be useful for other Shadow based designs like Gorr which is neat. I vastly prefer limiting direct callouts whenever possible.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

Darklings are a direct manifestation of Jackie’s powers. They shouldn’t thematically exist without him. Kind of like a GL construct only for him. They’re not creatures he works with, he literally creates them.

So regardless of what we do here, their design will be hard called out on for Jackie. I still prefer some more hard interplay between the two on both their cards for that reason if at all possible.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

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Darklings are a direct manifestation of Jackie’s powers. They shouldn’t thematically exist without him. Kind of like a GL construct only for him. They’re not creatures he works with, he literally creates them.

So regardless of what we do here, their design will be hard called out on for Jackie. I still prefer some more hard interplay between the two on both their cards for that reason if at all possible.
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For the entire game, before taking a turn with a Unique Demon hero you control named The Darkness, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 13 or higher, you may place 1 previously destroyed Darkling adjacent to Darkness or on any unoccupied Shadow Tile.

LIVE FOR DARKNESS
After taking a turn with a Unique Demon hero you control named The Darkness, you may move the Darklings.
Seems like either of these powers on the Darklings draft could easily have a line "If you do not control a figure named The Darkness, remove all Darklings from the game". But having the Darkness be able to function without them just be more powerful with them seems ideal.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

The Darklings going away after the Darkness is destroyed makes sense thematically so I would go for that. As for Jackie on his own the goal is he should be able to manage on his own, as there are occasions that he fights without the Darklings or the Darklings betray him. But Darklings are a big part of The Darkness power set so have them increase his power is a must.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

For sure. Seems like this design could be done without directly referencing them, though, and they could play the role of "add on" if that makes sense?

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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

Certainly makes sense to me.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

Seems like the consensus is moving away from referencing the Darklings in 'The Host Must Not Die'. Which if that's the case we might want to consider a rework for that power. I really appreciate all the feedback!
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

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Once per round if The Darkness ends his turn on or within one space of a shadow tile, you may roll 1 combat die plus one additional die for each shadow space within 2 clear sight spaces of The Darkness.
I think this works if you have the Darklings count as a single Shadow space.
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Re: The Book of The Darkness - Design Phase

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Once per round if The Darkness ends his turn on or within one space of a shadow tile, you may roll 1 combat die plus one additional die for each shadow space within 2 clear sight spaces of The Darkness.
I think this works if you have the Darklings count as a single Shadow space.
That works for me, really makes the Darkness want to stay in the dark which is good. Do we want to put a cap on the dice like maybe a limit of how many additional dice you can get?
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