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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - VOTE for Initial Playte

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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - VOTE for Initial Playte

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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - VOTE for Initial Playte

This passes, thanks! Plan to finish Yelena today, then do a sanity test, then this guy is next up. Definitely have some ideas for cool army builds already.

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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - VOTE for Initial Playte

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This passes, thanks! Plan to finish Yelena today, then do a sanity test, then this guy is next up. Definitely have some ideas for cool army builds already.
yeah I remember a lot of discussion on different totals when we were working out Creeper cost. Excited to see it.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old February 21st, 2021, 05:46 PM
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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - WAIT for Initial Playte

Here's what I'm currently planning to run:

Batman (Outsiders) (220), Black Lightning (160), Jade (240), Halo (190), Looker (190) (1,000)

Batman (Outsiders) (220), Geo-Force (280), Looker (190), Halo (190), Creeper (120) (1,000)

Batman (Outsiders) (220), Geo-Force (280), Katana (190), Metamorpho (290), Creeper (120) (1,100)

Batman (Outsiders) (220) Black Lightning (160), Geo-Force (280), Katana (190), Metamorpho (290), Alfred (60) (1200)

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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - WAIT for Initial Playte

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Old February 24th, 2021, 12:31 AM
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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - WAIT for Initial Playte

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: BATMAN (OUTSIDERS)
VERSION TESTED
Spoiler Alert!

Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Batman (Outsiders) (220), Black Lightning (160), Jade (240), Halo (190), Looker (190) (1,000) vs JLA Trinity (1,000)
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VERSION TESTED
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Army Test
Map: Island Plane Crash
Units: Batman (Outsiders) (220), Geo-Force (280), Looker (190), Halo (190), Creeper (120) (1,000) vs Green Arrow (JL), Black Canary (JL), Hawkwoman, Plastic Man (JL), Oracle (1,000)
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VERSION TESTED
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Army Test
Map: Mountain Spring
Units: Batman (Outsiders) (220), Geo-Force (280), Katana (190), Metamorpho (290), Creeper (120) (1,100) vs Ra’s al Ghul (II) (260), Talia al Ghul (110), Ubu (100), Cheshire (I) (170), Merlyn (160), Man-Bat Assassins (150), Elite League Assassins (150) (1,100)
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VERSION TESTED
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Army Test
Map: Dark Dimension
Units: Batman (Outsiders) (220) Black Lightning (160), Geo-Force (280), Katana (190), Metamorpho (290), Alfred (60) (1,200) vs Nightwing (200), Raven (190), Starfire (210), Arsenal (190), Tempest (210), Cyborg (I) (200) (1,200)
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Old February 24th, 2021, 12:37 AM
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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - WAIT for Initial Playte

Still have one more test I'm planning to run and add on to that, but since I'm calling it a night, I figured I'd post what I had and give you all my thoughts:

He's decent. He certainly helps the Outsiders start to play like a real army, which is great. Other than some decent luck and a solid match up against some squishier figures, though, I'd say the faction doesn't quite feel competitive yet, and his value is pretty contingent on the faction. So we could go a couple of directions here:

1. Tweak down his value some (drop his attack by one, lose the Bat Shuriken) and go for 180 points. This gets you some pretty sweet builds, like Geo-Force, Black Lightning, Batman, Katana, Halo/Looker for 1,000 or swap out one of Katana/Halo/Looker for Metamorpho at 1,100.

2. Keep him at 220 and tweak his value up just a tad. Could either be switching Mission Prep to auto-shields and auto-skulls instead of extra dice or, probably more preferable, make his Outsiders Operations Protocol less restrictive. Here's what I was thinking for that:

Current:

OUTSIDERS OPERATIONS PROTOCOL
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, and instead of taking a turn with Batman, you may choose up to two Unique Interloper Heroes you control that have not been chosen for this special power previously this round. Take a turn with each chosen Hero. Batman may be one of the chosen Heroes.

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OUTSIDERS OPERATIONS PROTOCOL
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, and instead of taking a turn with Batman, you may choose up to two Unique Interloper Heroes you control, at least one of which has not been chosen for this special power previously this round. Take a turn with each chosen Hero. Batman may be one of the chosen Heroes.

This gives you a bit more flexibility to keep hammering away with a front liner rather than having to move away from them, which would've been nice in some of the games. But it still keeps the onus on using a lot of your army, which is also nice. At 220, a lot of his builds have around 5 figures, so this tweak would let you get the full six turns in a round, at least until your army starts breaking down (at which point Geo-Force leaps in anyway).

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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - WAIT for Initial Playte

I dig that tweak to make him play differently from the Soundwarp On Deck design.
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Re: The Book of Batman (Outsiders) - WAIT for Initial Playte

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I dig that tweak to make him play differently from the Soundwarp On Deck design.
For the record, he already does, and is already a loooot easier to use. I won't specify how.

But, yeah, I think I'd definitely go with the tweak to the turn bonding over the tweak to Mission Prep if I keep him at 220. And I think 180 might be hard to get after winning the third game. (But it's doable if that's something folks are into enough).

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