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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Vote for Initial)

And with that it passes to Initial Playtesting.

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

I can get the initial Friday or Saturday if no one else is on it.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

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I can get the initial Friday or Saturday if no one else is on it.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

Part of the reason I made the proposal when I did.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

For testing I'd think you'd definitely want to try some pod play stuff with her. Her power discourages you from attacking from range and has the potential to move some figures around if you do. So figures that discourage you from being adjacent to them seem like a good fit (Electro, Blob, anyone with Engagement Strike, War-Machine, etc.). I might try pairing her with some of those, someone who can help figures move together (Martian Manhunter (I), Robot, etc.), and possibly a D20 booster.

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Queen of Spades (200), War Machine (270) (470) vs Blob (165), Magneto (310) (475)

Powers Used:
Deceptions: 0
Deceptions (Success): 0
Razor Spades: 2
Razor Spades Damage: 0
Royal Flush: 0
Royal Flush (Success): 0

Damage from normal attacks: 0

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Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Ace of Spades (260), King of Spades (210), Queen of Spades (200) (670) vs Human Torch (225), Invisible Woman (215), Mr. Fantastic (235) (675)

Powers Used:
Deceptions: 1
Deceptions (Success): 1
Razor Spades: 1
Razor Spades Damage: 2
Royal Flush (from Queen): 2
Royal Flush (Success): 1

Royal Flush (from King): 1
Royal Flush (Success): 0
Durable Armor (Ace): 1
Ace up the Sleeve (Ace): 0

Damage from normal attacks: 0

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Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Ace of Spades (260), King of Spades (210), Queen of Spades (200) (670) vs Donatello (150), Leonardo (210), Michelangelo (170), Raphael (170) (700)

Powers Used:
Deceptions: 4
Deceptions (Success): 4
Deceptions (Damage to enemies): 5
Razor Spades: 11
Razor Spades Damage: 4
Royal Flush (from Queen): 10
Royal Flush (Success): 6

Royal Flush (from King): 4
Royal Flush (Success): 2


Durable Armor (Ace): 3

Ace up the Sleeve (Ace): 2


Damage from normal attacks: 0

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Tough to nail a cost down. Her Deception powers are very swingy and can be negated with either range>4, intangibility or holding powers. If none of these are present, then the team is quite powerful. I think 200 is a good starting point for Queen, however I’m not convinced King is worth 210. As Queen should not end up being a higher cost then King, it might be worth dropping the range limit of Deceptions to either 3 or even 2 spaces of Queen as that power can be very powerful.

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

Deceptions is easy to circumvent but if not, it is very powerful. I am thinking of reducing her range with it to 3 spaces and seeing how she fairs from there.

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

Seems reasonable. Makes sense that you would want them to descend in cost as you go down the hierarchy.
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

Alright, made the slight range restriction to Deception. Now proposing for a vote for public playtesting at 200

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Waiting for Initial)

Sounds like a good change. yea
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Re: The Book of Queen of Spades (Vote for public playtesting

yea

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