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Re: AndreThaGiant's Pre-Pre-SoV Thread

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You have here a "mutant" that you indicate fits in on the near-future Earth where we find Motley Max. I firmly disagree.
I agree that these would not make sense from near-future Earth, however nowhere does this thread indicate that. It says "inspired by the "War Boys" from the Mad Max world", to give a sense of the real-world inspiration behind the theme and powers. Andre may have suggested it elsewhere, but as you say I would advise against that.

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Earthlings are *all* humans, with a single exception. That single exception - Motley Max - is very nearly human-looking, as well. The creatures on this card do not look nearly-human. They look monstrous. Their heads are almost avian in shape, and I do not look at them and think, "these things may have had human parents." And without that quality - the human parents piece - I cannot conceive of them as mutants.
Given the above, not looking human is a moot point. Other beings can mutate and thus also be mutants. There is no reason the species Mutant must be exclusive to mutated humans.

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Still drilling down on the mutant issue, it does not make sense to me that an army of "mutants" would be so similar to each other. Isn't the defining feature of a mutant that it's an aberration? Why would so many "aberrations" coincidentally be the same as each other? That's certainly not the X-Men vision of how mutants are, and it's not mine either. I do not think that a mass of (relatively) identical figures work as "mutants." That's just unacceptable, to me.
I understand where you're coming from, and yet most X-Men look like normal homo sapiens. There are a couple other slightly different sculpts with different skin tones and patterns, would that help in your eyes? That would be acceptable to me.

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I would also back off "mutated skin." It's not suggested by the mini and it's not present on the only other mutant, so it comes across (to me, anyway) as an easy way to make your two-man melee squad more durable. Which is a laudable goal! The challenge is to do it elegantly, rather than in a way that looks forced.
See above comment about different skin tones. If it was a three-figure squad and each one was a different color, would the theme come through better and feel less forced? Again, I'd be on board with it.

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I don't care for the power name "Witness Me!" because I don't think it's communicating a clear theme. How is that working? What story is being told here?
I get the reference though I've never seen Mad Max (shame, I know), so I may be wrong but I think it fits with the whole "glorified violence" mentality of the post-apocalypse (as well as the Incite Violence power). Saying, "I found another skull to bash in! Come watch!"

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I like the idea of something that motivates Warhulks. I also like the idea of a common squad that might be able to justify fielding two Ogre Warhulks. That would be cool!
That would be cool. I haven't played the Ogre Warhulk much, though I never cared for him too much either, at least in part on account of the price tag. It still might be a tall task given that two of them are a whopping 300 points, but as with other mediocre and underused units, I always love to see more on the battlefield.


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