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View Poll Results: Which Group of Units are Better?
Wyrmlings 33 51.56%
Elementals 31 48.44%
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:43 PM
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Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

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1. Stats/Special Powers

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4. Who Would Win Head-To-Head

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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:45 PM
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

I do realize this Unit Debate is bit of a stretch into an Army Debate, but I realized too late to make any changes.

EDIT: If you feel the army debate would be closer with Kurrok in the army, you may include him.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:49 PM
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

Definitely Elementals, especially if you throw Kurrok in the mix. They can keep coming back and have better stats along with what I think are better and cooler abilities. I have played both armies as well and would choose Elementals 100% of the time.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 09:19 PM
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

Going with the wyrmlings on this one. Yes, the elementals become (infinitely) more competitive with Kurrok in the mix, but a few Black Wyrmlings can solve that problem pretty quickly. Once the leader is gone, the wyrms go from be outnumbered 3 - 2 per OM, instead taking a 2 - 1 advantage.

All of the baby dragons fly, which gets them pretty easily around the Air Elementals. The versatility in choice of multi-attacks will help to chew up the enemy, which will be helpful in the face of those big, bad Fire and Earth Elementals.

All-in-all, it could be a pretty close match (depending upon the total points), but I'll go with the wyrmlings for the win more often than not.

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Old February 18th, 2011, 09:25 PM
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

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Going with the wyrmlings on this one. Yes, the elementals become (infinitely) more competitive with Kurrok in the mix, but a few Black Wyrmlings can solve that problem pretty quickly. Once the leader is gone, the wyrms go from be outnumbered 3 - 2 per OM, instead taking a 2 - 1 advantage.

All of the baby dragons fly, which gets them pretty easily around the Air Elementals. The versatility in choice of multi-attacks will help to chew up the enemy, which will be helpful in the face of those big, bad Fire and Earth Elementals.

All-in-all, it could be a pretty close match (depending upon the total points), but I'll go with the wyrmlings for the win more often than not.
But if you have the flying ability the Air Elemental is going to own the crap out of you.
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

Elementals all the way! The Air Elemental will carry the game against the flying Wyrmlings quite easily. Add Kurrok and it's an all-out rout.

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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

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Going with the wyrmlings on this one. Yes, the elementals become (infinitely) more competitive with Kurrok in the mix, but a few Black Wyrmlings can solve that problem pretty quickly. Once the leader is gone, the wyrms go from be outnumbered 3 - 2 per OM, instead taking a 2 - 1 advantage.

All of the baby dragons fly, which gets them pretty easily around the Air Elementals. The versatility in choice of multi-attacks will help to chew up the enemy, which will be helpful in the face of those big, bad Fire and Earth Elementals.

All-in-all, it could be a pretty close match (depending upon the total points), but I'll go with the wyrmlings for the win more often than not.
But if you have the flying ability the Air Elemental is going to own the crap out of you.
Ah, yes, I was thinking only of Swirling Vortex. I think either side of this one would require some careful planning, and first blood may count for quite a bit. However, I still feel that, once Kurrok goes down, this becomes very one-sided.

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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

Elementals have better army names:

Hurricane(All air)
Tidal Wave(All water)
Earthquake(All earth)
And of course Firestorm(All fire)


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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

The 3 attacks per OM really is the deciding factor. Once Kurrok falls, the Wyrmlings will probably take over though.
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

The Elementals are only good in limited combinations, all involving Kurrok. The Wyrmlings are top-notch fillers that can be helpful in lots of armies. Head-to-head, the Elementals probably have the advantage, but only assuming that Kurrock is involved-- otherwise there's no question that the Wyrmlings would win. If I was building a double-blind tournament army, I'd rather have Wyrmlings along-- I've played games in which just a couple Black Wyrmlings made a huge difference.
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

Elementals kind of need their own army, whereas Wyrmlings are the perfect add-in to an army lacking special attacks. I don't really consider them in the same category in that sense. I probably end up using Wyrmlings more overall, just because they fit into more armies. However, if I had to choose either an all Wyrmling army or an all Elemental army, I would go Elementals.
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Re: Unit Debate #51 -- Wyrmlings vs. Elementals

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Originally Posted by gorthan313
Elementals have better army names:

Hurricane(All air)
Tidal Wave(All water)
Earthquake(All earth)
And of course Firestorm(All fire)
I was thinking...
Tornado (All air)
A hurricane involves water, where a tornado is all air baby
Though the hurricane has a great Scorpion's song and is mascot for the U... peace

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With the intimacy of destruction, One knows what it is to be alive
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Last edited by Tornado; March 2nd, 2011 at 07:36 PM. Reason: my vote is for baby braxas
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