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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Initial Testing)

They are just jelling really well. That auto skull from Hex on top of an extra die for Strontium Dog and Bounty Hunter is really solid.
They are fairly quick with good range.
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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Initial Testing)

Yeah, they seem like a pretty nasty ranged group that might not feel so tough if you can close in on them fast. I wonder how they'd do against like a Superman or a Green Lantern type that can rush them and punch hard.

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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (In the Doghouse)

Thinking about this.

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NAME = JOHNNY ALPHA
SECRET IDENTITY = JOHN KREELMAN

SPECIES = RAD-MUTANT
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = LAWMAN
PERSONALITY = DETERMINED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 6
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 220?

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Johnny Alpha rolls an additional die when attacking or defending against any figure you chose for the Bounty Hunter special power at the start of the game. After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Johnny Alpha, you may take a turn with any other figure you control with the Bounty Hunter special power. You may not take additional turns.

ALPHA EYES
Instead of moving Johnny Alpha, you may look at the unrevealed Order Markers on the card of one figure adjacent to Johnny Alpha. When Johnny Alpha attacks with his normal attack, he does not need clear line of sight and the defending figure does not receive any additional defense dice from terrain.

ALPHA X
If Johnny Alpha or once per game any friendly figure with the Bounty Hunter special power, is attacked by a non-adjacent figure that does not have the Mental Shield special power, and at least 1 skull is rolled, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card and ignore the attack.
Lowered Defense by 1, changed to Determined, and added a once per game clause for friendlies to Alpha X.
Not entirely sure if that works mechanics and.wording wise, let me know.
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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Initial Testing)

It's more words, but something like this reads better to me.


ALPHA X
If Johnny Alpha is attacked by a non-adjacent figure that does not have the Mental Shield special power, and at least 1 skull is rolled, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card and ignore the attack. Once per game, you may use this power to protect any friendly figure with the Bounty Hunter special power.
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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Initial Testing)

Cool. That works.
Now you can more easily try to pick off the Bounty Hunters one by one.
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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (In the Doghouse)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Johnny Alpha

Army Test
Map: City Park.
Units: Johnny Alpha(220), Durham Red(180), Jonah Hex(130), Two-Gun Kid(140) vs. Green Lantern, Hal(350), GL, Kilowog(310), Skrull Infiltrator(10) [670].
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Army Test
Map: City Park.
Units: Johnny Alpha(220), Durham Red(180), Jonah Hex(130), Two-Gun Kid(140), Cap(240), Bucky(60) vs. Frankenstein(320), Solomon Grundy(290), Wendigo(350), Skrull Infiltrator(10) [970].
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Army Test
Map: City Park.
Units: Johnny Alpha(215), Durham Red(180), Jonah Hex(130), Two-Gun Kid(140) vs. Doc Ock(215), Whirlwind(190), LexCorp x2(260) [665].
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Army Test
Map: City Park.
Units: Johnny Alpha(215), Durham Red(180), Jonah Hex(130), Two-Gun Kid(140) vs. Doc Ock(215), Whirlwind(190), LexCorp x2(260) [665].
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Johnny really brings the Bounty Hunters together. They are really scary at range but close in on them and they start to crumble especially against heavy hitters.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: He was fun and versatile in his little group. He could be pretty decent in the expanding Lawman faction as well.


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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Initial Testing)

4 losses, either we over nerfed him or his points should come down a chunk. Do you like how he's playing as is and would be okay with him lower in points, or would you rather see him stay as his points and want to tweak something up?
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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Initial Testing)

I like how he plays. 220 is about where he should be theme wise. I would put him slightly above Dredd.
So, we may need to bump his Defense back up.
I need to update the SP here.

Willing to wait and see how he feels for other testers.
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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Vote for Public Testing)

Test linked. SP updated.
I want to get a little more input before making any more tweaks.
I propose Public Testing.

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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Vote for Public Testing)

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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Vote for Public Testing)

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Re: The Book of Johnny Alpha (Vote for Public Testing)

I'm really struggling here to understand the thinking behind this. If one person can play the same unit 4 times in a row and never get a win, why would we think someone else is going to find success with the unit? The last of the 4 tests was a 450 point victory for the opponent in a 655 point game. If the theme dictates a 220 point range, then we should have future testing help us hone in on that cost and he's clearly not their as is. At the very least I'd like to see his life raised from 4 to 5 or even 6. As the leader of a faction, he's justified in having more than 4 life. Having more staying power lets him use his other powers more times, thus increasing his teams chances of success without changing anything else about the card.
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