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Climb and Engagement
There's something I've been wondering about concerning
the Climb ability. I've searched around and haven't found anything about this, so I figured I might as well ask. The ability Climb says: When moving up or down levels of terrain, (name of figure) may double/triple (depending on whether it's X2 or X3) their height. My question is: There is a Fyorlag Spider on a height 1 space and there is an enemy figure on a height 4 space next to the spider. Obviously they are not considered to be engaged. However, If the spider moves onto a height 2 space that is still next to the enemy figure (and for some reason has to use Climb X3 - say there's a battlement in the way) its height would temporarily become 6 (because Climb X3 triples height). Does it become momentarily engaged with the figure on the height 4 space? Furthermore, after moving onto the height 2 space and ending its movement, its height would revert to 2. Would it take a leaving engagement attack because it is no longer engaged? Something tells me that the cancellation, though tragic, may indeed mend that divide... |
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Re: Climb and Engagement
Climb never affects height.
It only affects how high you can climb in one turn. Your stated height is what you must use to determine if engaged or not. Now through May 28th, the Louisville region is in desperate need of platelets - call the Red Cross if you are interested in donating! |
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Re: Climb and Engagement
Actually, the power explicitly says that it does affect height:
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No, it doesn't, for sake of engagement.
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EDIT: What I mean is that their power is that they are excellent climbers, being able to climb better than their height would otherwise suggest. The converse being is that their height does NOT actually increase when climbing. Now through May 28th, the Louisville region is in desperate need of platelets - call the Red Cross if you are interested in donating! Last edited by jschild; July 21st, 2009 at 09:46 AM. |
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Re: Climb and Engagement
That's what I figured. Thanks for the clarification.
Something tells me that the cancellation, though tragic, may indeed mend that divide... |
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Re: Climb and Engagement
On the card it says that climb doesn't affect engagement only moving up and down levels.
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Re: Climb and Engagement
Because they don't "grow", they are just good climbers.
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But yes, since engagement/disengagement is only considered when a figure is on a hex, not in between. It's like when a figure falls off a cliff and passes by an enemy on the way down. You don't roll for disengagement because you were never engagned on a particular hex. Side Note: I just noticed that you may add height when moving up or down. This means that when falling, you could choose to roll for falling damage even if the drop was not more than 5 high.I can't think of many situations where this would be advantageous. Maybe if Cyprien were almost dead and you didn't want your spiders to give him easy life. I just thought this would be something worth pointing out. |
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Re: Climb and Engagement
A picture is worth a thousand words ...
(click for larger image) The orange circle is the starting postition for our spider, the green circle is one of your opponent's spiders, and the blue/cyan circle is your spider at the end of his move. Now, on the right example, using the ladder to get up the four hexes, your spider would become engaged and leave engagement when he got to the top (per the FotA rule book). In the example on the left, I would think the spider using climb would also become engaged and then disengage when going from the orange circle to the blue/cyan circle. However, it sounds like most of you are saying that the spider wouldn't become engaged. I think I will respectfully disagree with that opinion -- but I'll keep checking the rule book. |
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This has been discussed previously and a clarification given. I can't recall the exact context of the discussion, but I will attempt to find the relevant thread.. |
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Re: Climb and Engagement
The space occupied is called a ladder rung space or just rung space. With climb there are no spaces being occupied.
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