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Old August 30th, 2018, 01:07 PM
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Want to see more mezzos? Because that's how you see more mezzos.
I don't have a problem with them.

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Old August 30th, 2018, 01:19 PM
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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

Neither do I. But I think you gotta count Exo Markers for partial card scoring. If somebody has 0 Exo Markers left but still has all of their Mezzos, they should get half the points.

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

You don't count exos for partial card scoring. It doesn't matter. Bringing the best army you can will always help you more than bringing an army targeted at partial/full card scoring.

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

Just finish your games on time. Then you don't have to worry about it.

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

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You don't count exos for partial card scoring. It doesn't matter. Bringing the best army you can will always help you more than bringing an army targeted at partial/full card scoring.
I'm a GenCon outsider, so take my opinions with a grain of salt.

I understand that exo markers don't factor into the equation in most people's calculation of partial scoring.

My concern is that Mezzos are in the intersection of the current GenCon meta and the potential "partial scoring" meta. Maybe it's not a big deal though.

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

There is no "partial scoring" meta, though. That was my point.

In order to profit from the edge you would get with the Mezzos, you would need to bring them, and then go to time, and then have some number of them left that it affected the outcome favorably. Which probably means making tactical decisions in-game to use markers to preserve them, when perhaps otherwise you would let them go. That situation would be exceedingly rare. You are much, much better off taking whatever advantages you get from bringing the army you think is most likely to help you win your games, without regard to exoskeleton markers.

So there's no partial card scoring meta, as far as I've ever noticed.

On the other hand, there *is* a full card scoring meta, in that in-game tactics can often be affected by the timing during the game. If time is getting near then suddenly the game becomes about wiping out wounded heroes & squads, and preserving the same, rather than just continuing the game in the ordinary course until time is called.

Partial card scoring is better. I am mindful that it adds a bit of time after a game to score it correctly, but I think the advantages of partial card scoring outweigh that very slight cost.

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Well I don't think it's actually a problem right now and I'm not sure if it's going to be a problem, but I'd probably like to know that it won't be a problem. Do we want / feel we need to have a mechanism in case someone feels like someone's playing deliberately slow to abuse scoring rules? I know magic has rules for the situation because people have abused it. I don't expect this community to do something like that, but I wonder if it's something to have and hopefully never need to use it.

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

Playing speed is already a part of the game, regardless of scoring method. I've never noticed it as a problem, and I don't recall anybody saying it was.

It would be pretty ugly, in a game with a close and (relatively) small community.

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

Mezzos are a corner case scenario. If you counted exos (which you shouldn't), would you just divide the 65 by 4? Let's say you bring 3x Mezzos. I agree that 6 Mezzos with 6 Exos is often not the same as 6 Mezzos with 0 Exos. However, 1 Mezzo with 5 Exos is not worth the same as 6 Mezzos with 0 Exos, yet it would be scored equivalently. Mezzos still lose hard to Special Attacks and auto-kills, and 1 Mezoo with 6 Exos is functionally the same as 1 Mezzo with no Exo in these matchups.

It's like the Krug argument; a corner-case scenario that doesn't really hold up when you examine it (a 1- life Krug is not equivalent to 6 Stingers, unless the Stingers player is really bad and lets him multi-engage).
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a 1- life Krug is not equivalent to 6 Stingers
Correct; he's worth far more. Just ask @Deroche .

(In a dragon wars event we did a long time ago, our game came down to my yet un-wounded Krug against his start zone full of 12+ Stingers. In one turn, he managed to get 7 wounds on Krug. Krug then proceeded to block every single attack for the rest of the game until he had wiped out all the Stingers. )

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Re: Gencon 2018 Results

362 days late and the OP is finally updated with the results that are in this thread or I remember. If you would like to be in the OP post your results and I'll add.
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362 days late and the OP is finally updated with the results that are in this thread or I remember. If you would like to be in the OP post your results and I'll add.
Thanks for updating, I like looking through these. Good luck to you this year my dude
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