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Old August 18th, 2016, 02:02 AM
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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

My daughter and I ran two tests tonight. (Same armies, we just switched sides.)

We had Nahiri, Mimring, Phoenixes, and the Goblins (600) vs. Lilliana, Reavers, Zombies, and the Ghoul (600). on a custom map my daughter made.

Spell decks: Firebreathing, Senseless Rage, Divine Favor, Blessing, Angel's Mercy, Chaplain's Blessing, Near Death Experience, Marked By Honor, Survive the Night, Burn at the Stake, Seize the Day, Chandra's Fury

vs. Strangling Soot, Behold the Beyond, Duress, Altar's Reap, Creeping Dread, Demonic Appetite, Rise of the Dark Realms, Painful Truths, Dark Harvest, Bone Splinters, Barter in Blood, Corrupt

Side note: she made it with lava so we made a quick rule (since there are no rounds in AotP) that you only had to roll for lava field damage if a figure both started and ended its turn on lava field. However, we took off all the lava for the 2nd match.

1st game:
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Looking at everybody's tests, I do think we should bump Mimring's Life to 6.

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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

Boost-able Fire Line seems like it could be unbalanced.

Has anyone tried this?

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Old August 18th, 2016, 11:18 AM
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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

That's exactly what we've been trying, T. Doesn't seem unbalanced at all.

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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

Glad to hear that you got some testing in, Quozl. It was interesting that Bone Splinters has basically taken Mimring out in all 3 matches against Black. From that perspective, being so susceptible to direct damage, an increase in life might be appropriate.

I tried another match today at 500 points, Red vs White, using only Mimring and the base AotP set. With Red having only 2 figures available it ensures that Mimring will come into play. It also means that I have to either lead with Chandra or Mimring, and neither of them last very long in that role.

In the (quick) end Red rolled poorly and White rolled amazing, so Chandra went down in a singe turn once the Rhox reached her.

While Mimring had a couple of Firelines, the white squad figures were pumped up with enough +Tough that Fireline never got to them.

Clearly I need to figure out how to solo play larger armies.

As far as being able to pump up Mimring's attack, I think it is very important that it can be done. A 4 attack Fireline against pumped-up squadies with 6 defense does not make Mimring very formidable, especially since Mimring must roll his attack against every opponent.

Also, because opponent figures can be summoned on to the board at any time, a strategy against Mimring is to hold your summons until they are right on top of Mimring. Fire Line is not very effective with only 2 or 3 figures as available targets.
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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

Good point about summoning. It certainly affects strategy/game-play which is nice.

Any chance you could make it one roll or would that be too swing-y? It is weird that they are all different dice.

Does anyone besides Blue have the ability to move/control other figures?

That could be devastating if you could move enemy figures to set up a Fire Line.

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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

Because of the spell Senseless Rage,

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we decided that one roll for all figures in the fire line wasn't Planeswalker-y (and neither are special attacks) so we went with attacking each figure in the line individually.

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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

@Tornado , Red's spell Senseless Rage is why the power reads that way, to roll attack separately for each figure.

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If Mimring made a single attack roll and each figure rolled defense separately, Senseless Rage could be a problem to use. Making each attack separate seemed an easy way to avoid problems.

As far as pumping up Mimring, currently Red only has two spells that would actually pump him up, Stoke the Flames and Burn at the Stake. All the other current pumps specify Squad Creatures.

Stoke the Flames +1P within 4 of PW
Burn at the Stake +1P vs select targets

I need to check to see if only Blue can move opponents figures around.
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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

We need to look at all colors though because of multicolor planeswalkers.

P.S. Targanth, why did our links to this thread on planeswalkers-arena get deleted?

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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

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Targanth, why did our links to this thread on planeswalkers-arena get deleted?
The moderator at Planeswalkers is doing a major update. It seems he decided that the Heroscape section there was not active enough and wanted to make room for all the added material - there will be a forum area for every specific color.

I've been considering adding a post over there under custom armies to alert folks to what we're doing, but thought perhaps I'd wait until we have Mimring finished. If you would prefer one right away, I can make one.
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I think the more people testing, the better this project will be.

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I agree and will see about making a thread over there.

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Re: Making the RotV figures into Planeswalker heroes and squ

I played another game today. I'll write it up later but just wanted to say 120 points with the Life bumped to 6 is feeling right. Also comparable to the Necro-Alchemist at 125.

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