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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - Public Playtesting

Narrow Escape not coming up again cements just cutting the power outright for me. 170 looks like it's holding up. Going to check with Redstang for his time table.

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Old October 9th, 2021, 02:47 PM
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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - Public Playtesting

Also looking for feedback on the first power title before we move to Final Editing. Here's what I asked Cinderquail that I'd ask y'all as well:

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Only question I can think of is what did you think of "The Avengers Idea" for a power name and would you prefer something like Avenger Assets for that power or something else?
I like the current name for the ability, Avenger Assets also would work. I feel like that comes down to personal preference on which ever name you prefer.
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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - Public Playtesting

Avenger Assets seems good.
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Old October 10th, 2021, 09:55 AM
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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - Public Playtesting

Thanks for the tests! I think we've decided to cut Narrow Escape due to lack of use in any tests. Avengers Initiative would be the perfect name for the first power. Sadly, Avengers Iron Man already stole it.

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Please forward the current design write up for playtesting along with any tips or requests. Thank you!
Thanks! I appreciate the sign up.

As a clarification, he only gets to put the markers on his card if they would be placed. So if you go with Cap (I) and Cap only has three places to actually put markers, that's only 3 markers Fury could take.

Captain America, Iron Man (Avengers), and Hawkeye (Avengers) are all good partners. Ms. Marvel (Carol) and Black Widow (Avengers) are decent ones as well.

Pairing him with figures that like having OMs moved around (like Widow, for instance), that can wound on movement, or just getting an extra attack each round is his main thing.

We're considering cutting Narrow Escape, so let me know if it comes into play or not!

Lemme know if you have any questions and thanks again!

Cheers,
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P.S. Some debate over the power title for the first title, so let me know if you like it or have any suggestions for changes!

NAME = NICK FURY

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = AGENT
PERSONALITY = RESOURCEFUL
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 6
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4
POINTS = 170

THE AVENGERS IDEA

At the start of the game, place a white Avenger Marker on the card of a friendly Unique Hero. Anytime you would place an Avenger Marker on another card, or a friendly figure with an Avenger Marker on its card would be destroyed, you may place that marker on this card.

DESPERATE MEASURES
Once per round, at the beginning of your turn, you may remove an Avenger Marker from this card to do one of the following:
• Rearrange any Order Markers on cards in your army;
• Figures you control do not take any leaving engagements this player turn, and you may immediately move normally with up to two figures you control; or
• After revealing an Order Marker, before taking a turn, attack normally with one figure you control.

NARROW ESCAPE
Once per game, at the end of any round after Nick Fury has been destroyed, you may place him on an empty space within 2 clear sight spaces of a friendly figure and place or remove Wound Markers until he has 2 Life remaining.

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: NICK FURY (MCU)

Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: Team A: Nick Fury, Hawkeye 220, Captain America 240, Iron Man 270 – 900 Points

Team B: Grim Reaper, Doc Oc 215, Rhino, Demogoblin – 895 Points

Game Summary
This was a tight game which almost saw Fury destroyed near the end. Avenger Markers were plentiful given Fury's teammates, there was never any concern that he would run out of them and not be able to use Desperate Measures. Desperate Measures was used 3 times, once for an additional attack for Hawkeye, once for an additional attack for Cap, and once to move an OM from a dead Cap to Iron Man. Cap was able to capitalize on his extra attack by rolling 5 skulls and destroying Grim Reaper early in the 3rd round. Demogoblin's Hell Fire Vindication kept the opposing squad in the game, and eventually killed off Cap. Fury was going to use his Desperate Measures one other time, to move Iron Man, but given Doc Oc's lockdown power, was unable to. It came down to Rhino vs a damaged Hawkeye and Fury. Given his tough hide, it looks as Rhino would prevail, but Hawkeye's Special Arrow was able to penetrate it. Being able to use Special Arrow with Desperate Measures would have helped a lot, but not being able to, helped keep Fury balanced.




Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes):

Team A won: Hawkeye 1 life Remaining, Nick Fury 1 Life remaining.

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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: Team A: Nick Fury, Mockingbird, Captain America 240, Winter Soldier (II), Black Widow (II) – 1,010 Points

Team B: Magneto 310, Quicksilver, Black King, Mastermind, Bishop – 1, 010 points

Game Summary
This game was pretty lopsided, but Fury's involvement was less compared to the first game. Desperate Measures was used twice, once for Winter Soldier to attack Quicksilver, putting two wounds on him, and once for Captain America to attack Black King, putting two wounds on him. Even though Mockingbird was destroyed early and she had be chosen as Winter Soldier's Duo partner, Bucky and Cap rolled in this game. Winter Soldier rolled 4 skulls on attack twice, and 5 skulls on attack 3 times. Cap rolled 6 skulls on attack once, and 5 skulls on attack once. In short, Bucky and Cap put down a lot of red. Fury and Widow never moved from their starting zone as neither ever took a turn.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Team A: Nick Fury All Life remaining, Black Widow All Life Remaining, Winter Soldier All Life Remaining, Captain America 1 Life Remaining.


THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I know the one test is pretty lopsided, but the preference would be to keep Fury under 200. With that said, I don't believe Fury's escape power is needed. He can do everything he needs to do from the start zone, and because he can only use Desperate Measures once per round, he doesn't come off as a big enough threat for the other team to rush him right off the bat. I believe the first test is more indicative of Fury's worth given the way the dice were rolled in the second game.


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:Nice addition to the Avenger group, fun play and really helps bring them together. I would think "Avengers Initiative" would be a good name for the first power, even though is has nothing to do with rolling for initiative.

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Old October 10th, 2021, 09:57 AM
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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - Public Playtesting

OK, feeling pretty good about his cost. Narrow Escape is cut. First power is renamed Avenger Assets.

I propose we move to Final Editing.

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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - VOTE for Final Editing

Definitely think the power is better off being cut, beyond it never coming up, his W-L to me means he’s best left with some more vulnerability.

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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - VOTE for Final Editing

Yeah, 5-2 in public testing, though Red's big win seems to have had little to do with him. Do you think we should bump to 180 or 190 to be safe?

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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - VOTE for Final Editing

170 should be ok. Limited to once per round stuff, not always even the best option(attacking), I’m not worried about it personally.

I’d maybe lower his range to 5 though? Mostly because I’m not sure he should have that level of marksmanship, and it’s nice to stick with repeated numbers.
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Re: The Book of Nick Fury (MCU) - VOTE for Final Editing

I doubt he's going to attack all that much in most games anyway. Cool with lowering to 5 range (done in the SP). Sounds like you feel 170 works and I felt it did too, so we'll keep rolling.

Hoping for a quick vote here so there's a chance at making the 12th deadline still.

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