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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

I'll grab the initial on this one. Should be able to get it done this weekend.

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Old May 15th, 2022, 07:26 PM
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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

I've finished half of the testing for Armadillo and he is coming in around 180-190 points. Zak is pretty adamant at keeping him at the 200+ range, so with Zak's permission I have proposed the following change to replace his Underground Movement.

TUNNELLING SURPRISE
Instead of moving Armadillo normally you may choose a Land space that is within 4 spaces of Armadillo and is no higher than 1 level above Armadillo's height or 3 levels below his base. If there is a figure on that space, you may move that figure 1 space then place Armadillo on the chosen space and roll an unblockable die against all figures adjacent to him. After moving Armadillo with Tunnelling Surprise subtract 2 from Armadillo's attack for the remainder of this turn.

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Old May 16th, 2022, 07:32 AM
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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

I like the power name.

Is the figure movement the only mechanical change? Is that enough of a power up?

Right now it reads as the figure movement being required in order to place Armadillo. I assume that’s unintentional. Deleting the “then” and making the placement clause its own sentence would fix that, I believe.

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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

Yeah Armadillo goes toe to toe with The Thing, he should definitely come in higher than 200.
Is Tunneling Surprise already a Mole Man power?
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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

Version tested
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Army Test
Map: Icy Road
Units: Armadillo (200) (200) vs Whirlwind (190) (190)

Powers Used:
Underground Movement: 0
Underground Movement Damage: 0
Roadkill Slammer: 0
Roadkill Damage: 0
Impenetrable Skin: 0

Damage from normal attacks: 4

Armadillo’s brute strength was able to rip through Whirlwind’s defenses.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Armadillo 2/5 Life Remaining
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Army Test
Map: Icy Road
Units: Armadillo (200) (200) vs Sandman (210) (210)

Powers Used:
Underground Movement: 1
Underground Movement Damage: 0
Roadkill Slammer: 0
Roadkill Damage: 0
Impenetrable Skin: 2

Damage from normal attacks: 5

Sandman dominated the entire game.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Sandman 2/5 Life Remaining
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Army Test
Map: Icy Road
Units: Armadillo (200) (200) vs Owl (125), Street Thugs (75) (200)

Powers Used:
Underground Movement: 0
Underground Movement Damage: 0
Roadkill Slammer: 3
Roadkill Damage: 5
Impenetrable Skin: 1

Damage from normal attacks: 1

The better range and multiple attacks were too much for Armadillo.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Owl 1/6 Life Remaining, 3 Street Thugs remain.
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Changed power
UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT
Instead of moving normally with Armadillo, you may immediately place him on any Land Space that is within 4 spaces of Armadillo and is no higher than 1 level of Armadillo's height or 3 levels below Armadillo's base. After placing Armadillo this way, roll one unblockable attack die against all adjacent figures and subtract 2 from his attack for the rest of the turn


to

TUNNELLING SURPRISE
Instead of moving Armadillo normally you may choose a Land space that is within 4 spaces of Armadillo and is no higher than 1 level above Armadillo's height or 3 levels below his base. If there is a figure on that space, you may move that figure 1 space and place Armadillo on the chosen space and roll an unblockable die against all figures adjacent to him. After moving Armadillo with Tunnelling Surprise subtract 2 from Armadillo's attack for the remainder of this turn.


Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Amanda Waller (195), Armadillo (210), Firefly (120), Mentallo (135), Wizard (140) (800) vs Cyborg (200), Nightwing (200), Raven (190), Starfire (210) (800)

Powers Used:
Underground Movement: 3
Underground Push: 2
Underground Movement Damage: 3
Roadkill Slammer: 1
Roadkill Damage: 1
Impenetrable Skin: 1

Damage from normal attacks: 8

Criminals took an early lead on the Titans, but they just could not get through Cyborgs healing and Ravens Magical Defense. A couple of criminal traitors also thinned their ranks.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cyborg 5/5 Life remaining, Raven 1/5 Life remaining
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Armadillo (210), Beetle (175), Lexcorp Security x3 (390), Rhino (220) (995) vs Fantastic Four (1000)

Powers Used:
Underground Movement: 0
Underground Push: 0
Underground Movement Damage: 0
Roadkill Slammer: 0
Roadkill Damage: 0
Impenetrable Skin: 1

Damage from normal attacks: 2

Again the criminals started fairly hot, but fell apart fast with the loss of their Lexcorp Security. Mr. F locked down Armadillo and this prevented him from using some of abilities.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Human Torch 5/5 Life remaining, Mr. Fantastic 3/5 Life remaining, Thing 1/6 Life remaining
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
With the changes to his movement power, Armadillo is coming in around 200. Although he lost both his team games, Armadillo dealt his share of damage against the Titans and Mr. Fantastic prevented Armadillo from moving and that kind of reduced his worth.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Fun design with plenty of options and some strong durability. Looks good at 200.

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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

Mole Man does have "Tunnel Surprise" which is pretty close, so maybe something more differentiated, like "Tunneling Ambush" or "Aggressive Tunneling"?

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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

I was thinking Ambush too

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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

Tests look good, btw.

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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

Updated the ability on the SP
Thanks for rocking that initial Fret!!

If everyone is happy so far, and if there is no further concerns...
I propose we move to Public Playtesting at 200 Points
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Re: The Book of Armadillo - Waiting for Initial

Yea. Make sure to update the thread title.

Edit: and link the initial in the OP.

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Yea. Make sure to update the thread title.
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