The Book of Bailey Hoskins

[japes]

yea

[johnny139]

Yea

[L0B5T3R]

This passes!

[Lazy Orang]

Anyone familiar with those iconic (if not very effective) Classic 'Theracus bomb' strategies? There was even a whole thread dedicated to them. I have a feeling that Angel + Bailey will likely have shades of that, and there's something that just feels right about those iconic strategies getting a C3G makeover.

[L0B5T3R]

I think Angel and Bailey has potential but it seems like Shadowcat is a solid team up as well. Let the baddies come to you, then BAM. I really hope the design offers some new strategies.

While we wait on tests I was wondering if anyone from the art team has gotten a chance to look at the Comic images on the 1st page? If there is a picture that jumps out as useable let me know because I wanted to get an idea of the repaint for the mini. If we like an image of him in his X-Men uni then I’d like the mini to match, but if we thought the civi clothes looked fine then just a simple shirt repaint. @japes

[Scapemage]

Anything special you'd like me to try for builds @L0B5T3R ? Going to be testing over the next few days. This is kind of a strange case since he is designed to run out and kill early on, so I might run 4 or 5 half-games instead of 2 full games. Thoughts on that approach?

[L0B5T3R]

I don’t think I have anything specific I need to see. Whatever you think is best in terms of finding his cost. If any others have an opinion please say. I really appreciate you running any tests!

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Bailey Hoskins

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Bailey Hoskins(50), Nightcrawler(KD)(230), Nightcrawler II(210), Angel(90), Professor X(220) (800)
vs.
Wrecking Crew(800)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:


Worst X-Man Ever:


Notes:
R1T3: Wrecker kills Bailey.


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Ended the match early as Bailey just got killed right away. Good data on showing his vulnerability at least.

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Army Test 2 (rematch)
Map: Custom
Units:
Bailey Hoskins(50), Nightcrawler(KD)(230), Nightcrawler II(210), Angel(90), Professor X(220) (800)
vs.
Wrecking Crew(800)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:


Worst X-Man Ever:
R1T3: rolls 6 skulls, puts 2 wounds on Bulldozer, Piledriver, and Thunderball. Bailey is destroyed.

Notes:
R1T2: Wrecker puts 2 wounds on Nightcrawler KD(botch).
R1T2: Angel puts 1 wound on Wrecker.
R2T1: Nightcrawler puts 1 wound on Wrecker.
R2T2: Wrecker takes 1 wound from LEA, attacks Prof. X. but he reveals the X. Bulldozer puts 2 wounds on Nightcrawler.
R2T3: Nightcrawler puts 2 wounds on Wrecker(botch). Nightcrawler KD puts 1 wound on Bulldozer.
R2T3: Bulldozer kills Professor X. Wrecker kills Nightcrawler.
R3T1: Nightcrawler KD kills Wrecker.
R3T1: Bulldozer takes 1 wound from Nightcrawler KD's Ruthless Teleportation.
R3T2: Piledriver kills Nightcrawler KD. Bulldozer puts 3 wounds on Angel.
R4T1: Piledriver kills Angel.


Bulldozer with 4/6 wounds, Piledriver and Thunderball both with 2/6 wounds.

Nightcrawler and Angel got Bailey towards the middle of the map, then engaged Wrecker to keep him occupied, allowing Bailey to explode on turn 3. That allowed max damage on the other 3 Wrecking Crew members. Unfortunately however, it wasn't enough to gain the win as the Wrecking Crew bounced back and took out both the impressively defensive Nightcrawlers, as well as Professor X and Angel.

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Army Test 3
Map: Custom
Units:
Bailey Hoskins(50), Liz Sherman(180), Harley Quinn(130), Nightcrawler(KD)(230) (590)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Tigra(170), Shang-Chi(230) (590)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:


Worst X-Man Ever:
R2T3: rolls 4 skulls, puts 2 wounds on Cage and Shang-Chi. Bailey is destroyed.

Notes:
R1T2: Liz takes 2 wounds from her SA.
R1T3: Shang-Chi kills Liz.
R2T2: Nightcrawler KD puts 1 wound on Cage.
R2T2: Shang takes 1 wound from Nightcrawler's RT. Cage puts 3 wounds on Harley(botch).
R2T3: Shang kills Harley after 3rd attack. Cage puts 3 wounds on Nightcrawler KD(botch).
R3T1: Nightcrawler KD decapitates Cage with RT, then puts 1 wound on Tigra.
R3T2: Nightcrawler puts 1 wound on Tigra.
R3T3: Nightcrawler decapitates Shang-Chi with RT.
R4T1: Tigra kills Nightcrawler on 3rd attack.


Tigra with 2/5 wounds.

Very close match. Bailey did well again, but the Fighters managed to bring it back. Nightcrawler was taking out Cage and Shang with his Ruthless Teleports, but Tigra put an end to it. Had Harley lasted long enough to use her Bomb SA it may have gone the other way, but she was taken out.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Bailey can be quite dangerous, but I think his low survivability keeps him in check as a nice risk/reward unit. Plus, he could roll low, thus negating his effectiveness, and there is a cap on how much he can do, as well as range and an OM reveal needed, which adds to the investment. He lost both games here, and may have lost the 1st I abandoned where he was insta-killed. However, all games felt competitive and he did well above his points in damage, so I feel 50 is fair here. I felt I was lucky in the 2 games where he managed to do max damage on the figures within range. That won't always be the case. Yet his potential is decent if he can pull it all off, so 50 is good. It's also worth noting that it's really the only reason to take him, so he needs to do at least 50 points in wounds to get that back. He'll make a nice filler unit when you have a 50 point gap to fill.

[L0B5T3R]

Wow thanks a bunch for running that Arkham. I’m glad you think 50 is good.

[Scapemage]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Bailey Hoskins AKA “The Bomb”

Army Test
Map: Vallum by Killometer.
Units: Bailey, Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Phoenix (650) vs. Uncle Sam, Rocket Red x1, Kryptonian Soldier x1, and Bucky (650).

Spoiler Alert!

Uncle Sam makes the Kryptonian Soldier Patriotic, and the game begins! Cyclops moves Bailey, then Jean Grey. Uncle Sam moves. Cyclops moves Bailey again, then Jean misses Sam. Bucky moves, then Rocket Red flies up and kills Bailey with a normal attack, no height. Let’s try that again.


Cyclops moves himself, then Jean Grey. The Kryptonian Soldier and Bucky move. Cyclops moves Bailey, then Uncle Sam moves. Bailey goes in to strike, and rolls… 1 skull. 1 wound to Uncle Sam. Sam waltzes up and smashes Cyclops for 3 wounds.
In the next round, the patriots take over. Bucky slays Cyclops, then Jean Grey fights back by putting two wounds onto Bucky. After a couple more moves, Jean Grey is eliminated by Sam and replaced by Phoenix who is wounded by the Kryptonian. Phoenix Fire misses 3/3 rolls.
Phoenix puts up a fight with a strong Psionic Blast and begins putting wounds down, even managing to kill Bucky. But it doesn’t last long, and the patriots win handily.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Uncle Sam w/ 2 wounds, Kryptonian Soldier w/ 1 wound, and Rocket Red unharmed.

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Army Test
Map: Vallum by Killometer.
Units: Bailey, Professor X, Nightcrawler (Darkholme), Psylocke, and Sunfire (1000) vs. Black Hand and Black Lantern x3 (1000).

Spoiler Alert!

Professor X allows Nightcrawler and Sunfire to move, then the Black Lanterns move. Psylocke and Bailey move, then a Black Lantern tries to hit Nightcrawler, who teleports. The other Lanterns engage Psylocke and Nightcrawler. Bailey runs in and BOOM! 3 wounds (2 to BL1 and 1 to BL2). Black Hand moves up and hits Nightcrawler for 2 wounds.
Psylocke misses BL3 and Nightcrawler hits all 3 teleport rolls, wounding BL1, BL2, and Black Hand. He fails the bonus roll on BL1. BL3 takes 3 wounds from attacking Pyslocke, then BL1 wounds Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler misses some rolls, but teaming up with Psylocke manages to take out all of the Black Lanterns. Black Hand comes to party as well, but doesn’t get too far.
After some bouts with Sunfire and Psylocke in the next round, Black Hand is taken out.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Professor X unwounded, Sunfire unwounded, Psylocke w/ 1 wound, and Nightcrawler w/ 3 wounds.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Bailey is bound to come in weak in some cases. In game 1, he rolled particularly poor, but in game 2, 3 wounds really did matter. He’s just 50 points, and I think it feels right more him given the average is 4 skulls, and those wounds ignore defensive powers and point values. His 1 wound onto Uncle Sam is arguably worth his point value, though a weak showing, and taking out ½ and ¼ of uncommon 175 point Black Lanterns is quite a bit of points as well. He feels like an filler unit that gives you an early edge. If you’re 50 points short on an army, he’s great to round it out.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Bailey is a HUGE risk in game, and that’s the point. Not only can you roll poorly when using his power, he has to be within striking distance and in danger of near-instant death a turn before he goes in. That being said, he’s a whole ton of fun to play! It feels so good to run in and BLAMO!, and it’s quite funny when it fails dramatically.

Here you go! He is SO MUCH FUN! Really. An absolute blast to run in with (no pun intended). It's really difficult to guage, but I didn't feel like he was a complete dud or insane powerhouse at 50 points.

[Lazy Orang]

Hmmm... part of me's starting to wonder if this whole 'early game bomb' direction for him is even thematic. Don't get me wrong, it sounds fun, but from what little I've heard about this guy's arc I'm not sure 'willing suicide bomber' is as thematic as 'willing to sacrifice himself in extremis' would be.


Hate to put a damper on things so late on guys, but it's just occurred to me that the design fits the powers rather than the character.

[Tornado]

The problem is that the longer you wait the higher the chance he gets destroyed before you get to use him and also there are fewer targets and they are most likely more spread out. To have any chance of getting a good explosion you have to use him early.

Nice tests Arkham and Scape.

Pre-Yea for Final Editing at 50.

Nice work Lobs. This one was a grind.