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Old August 8th, 2019, 03:37 PM
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There is at least one player that doesn't come to GenCon and should be in the conversation for "top player" based on their skill level.
I could care less about who is "Top Gun" for a particular year, but I understand and respect if that is important to you. I just play for fun.

Gen Con has always been the de facto World Championship. Its where the men are separated from the boys. If this unknown player is as good as you say he or she is then well they should start planning for 2020. July 30-August 2, 2020
I believe caps is referring to @kevindola . I'm already planning on crowdfunding an effort to kidnap him and bring him to Gencon next year.

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Old August 8th, 2019, 03:57 PM
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There is at least one player that doesn't come to GenCon and should be in the conversation for "top player" based on their skill level.
I could care less about who is "Top Gun" for a particular year, but I understand and respect if that is important to you. I just play for fun.

Gen Con has always been the de facto World Championship. Its where the men are separated from the boys. If this unknown player is as good as you say he or she is then well they should start planning for 2020. July 30-August 2, 2020
I believe caps is referring to @kevindola . I'm already planning on crowdfunding an effort to kidnap him and bring him to Gencon next year.
Lol, seriously though...I would love to meet and play Kevindola in person (as I'm sure many would), and what better venue than GenCon.

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I am in on that.
Annoying him in the CoN is one thing but being able to annoy him in real life would be really satisfying.
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Old August 8th, 2019, 04:57 PM
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I figured he was just talking about me 4 times.

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Old August 8th, 2019, 05:36 PM
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There is at least one player that doesn't come to GenCon and should be in the conversation for "top player" based on their skill level.
I could care less about who is "Top Gun" for a particular year, but I understand and respect if that is important to you. I just play for fun.

Gen Con has always been the de facto World Championship. Its where the men are separated from the boys. If this unknown player is as good as you say he or she is then well they should start planning for 2020. July 30-August 2, 2020
I believe caps is referring to @kevindola . I'm already planning on crowdfunding an effort to kidnap him and bring him to Gencon next year.
Correct. Matthias knocked me out of Day 2 in the first round. I would say he is a top 4 player. Two of the others would be dok and kevindola. Not sure who the fourth would be--there are quite a few other good players in the online scene. And of course we have a lot of great competition at GenCon in person.

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Old August 9th, 2019, 09:15 AM
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Re: Gencon 2019 Results

This debate is kind of silly, and (IMHO) kind of disrespectful to the two people who actually played for the Main Event championship.

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Old August 9th, 2019, 11:25 AM
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Re: Gencon 2019 Results

Nobody is questioning the skill of IS or vegie, and I strongly doubt either of them feel disrespected by this discussion.
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Old August 9th, 2019, 11:40 AM
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Well met!

Among the very best players, I suggest that the play rises to the level of art, and who is “best” is a purely subjective issue.

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Nobody is questioning the skill of IS or vegie, and I strongly doubt either of them feel disrespected by this discussion.
Nah, Nathan’s a scrub.

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Re: Gencon 2019 Results

I do think IS was playing the best Heroscape of anyone at Gencon last weekend. He didn't lose a game and won some really tough ones (pulled out an incredible win vs. Dysole with a single Nakita vs 7 squad figures starting in his own startzone, beat Matthias Spiders vs Heavies).

Top 4 is a bit silly of a way to think about it given Heroscape's strange cultural state as a discontinued game that we get together to play. But also no one was really thinking about Heroscape skill that way. Caps was mostly just complaining that he was matched against Heroscape celebrities in Day 2 who are always tough to beat
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I do think IS was playing the best Heroscape of anyone at Gencon last weekend. He didn't lose a game and won some really tough ones (pulled out an incredible win vs. Dysole with a single Nakita vs 7 squad figures starting in his own startzone, beat Matthias Spiders vs Heavies).

Top 4 is a bit silly of a way to think about it given Heroscape's strange cultural state as a discontinued game that we get together to play. But also no one was really thinking about Heroscape skill that way. Caps was mostly just complaining that he was matched against Heroscape celebrities in Day 2 who are always tough to beat
Well, he had the matchup vs Ken. Spiders and Wyverns destroy the splash armies we create, because the whole point of splash armies is a gradual positioning game with different pieces. Spiders are actually a really hard counter for those armies (Ken had told me that he was running them and I tested them, those games aren’t even close).

But otherwise, yeah. He was definitely on top of his game this year. Last year was Matthew’s year, this year it was Nathan’s. Ken is still probably the best player at GenCon, especially given that he plays even less than myself or the Ash’s play (I play about 10 games outside GenCon each year, Ken plays about 0).
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