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Old October 11th, 2019, 01:17 AM
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

I like them at 100 points still. I did have an idea if we wanted them to get more aggressive. We can change Age of Ultron to allow you to attack with 2 Unique Ultrons or 1 Event Ultron. And then change Ultron Imperative 2 to Ultron Imperative X where X is 2 plus the number of wounds on the card (makes it a max of +4 for the roll to match Jocasta).

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

@Lord Pyre do you think this helps with your hiding Drone problem? Would love to get feedback here and maybe one more set of tests to wrap this up.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

I think that makes for an interesting option, and would definitely help bring the drones more front and center.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

Hmm, I'm not sure in reality it would affect that.

I would still almost always opt to attacking with Ultron, as his potential for insta-kills is awesome. While I like the mechanic of lowering the roll for the amount of wounds, the reality is I always try to hit an opponent's figure with it unless Ultron has 5 or so wounds.

I like the ideas, but I think it wouldn't change the way I play at all. I think the easiest way to fix it is to only give the die roll bonus if Ultron is within 5 spaces or so of the targeted Drone.

But if you think he's playing fine currently, it's a good design. It just didn't feel too thematic to me to be running away rather than swarming. But maybe that's inevitable with resurrection figures like this.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

Kind of like the option to attack with two drones or one Ultron, right now I don't see any reason to ever attack with just one drone as long as Ultron is alive and in range to attack something. The option for two attacks from two different drones (who might on very different parts of the board) could present some tactical advantages if you can go after two different targets at once or even double attack someone hiding out of Ultron's range.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

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Kind of like the option to attack with two drones or one Ultron, right now I don't see any reason to ever attack with just one drone as long as Ultron is alive and in range to attack something. The option for two attacks from two different drones (who might on very different parts of the board) could present some tactical advantages if you can go after two different targets at once or even double attack someone hiding out of Ultron's range.
Yeah, this. Drones should definitely be viable as swarming troops.


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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

I'd be happy to do a set of tests here this weekend. Just let me know if there's any updates to the SP.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

I’d like to try the option to have 2 of them attack or Ultron but not both. Right now I feel like there is little incentive for you to do anything with them except move them out, tie down figures and wait for Ultron to kill them. Giving you the option for 2 attacks vs 1 bigger attack might change that.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Ultron Drone

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Ultron, Ultron Drone x4 (1080) VS Captain America C3G, Iron Man Hasbro, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Vision (1085)
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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Ultron, Ultron Drone x4 (1080) VS Thor, Hulk Hasbro, War Machine (1070)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: One win and one loss; they felt balanced. The Drones are ultimately weak shock troops but their ability to trade Ultron’s powerful single attack for 2 lesser attacks is useful. They’re also great at just tying down figures. Being able to move any 2 Ultrons then attack with a different figure(s) is handy. And Ultron’s program transmission means you want to take them down before the real Ultron. Lots of fun, this feels like a necessary design so Ultron plays like he does in the movie.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Public Playtesting

I'm glad you enjoyed the option to attack with two of the Drones vs just Ultron. I think it will encourage them to get into the action a bit more than LP was experiencing.

I propose we move to Final Editing at 100 points

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - VOTE for Final Editing

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