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Old January 20th, 2013, 11:43 AM
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

I have to disagree. They are known as Dark Judges, specifically in the comics, not Lawkeepers. If their can be Death Knights and Knights in Heroscape, I see no reason why there can not be Judges and Dark Judges.

By this same argument Judge Dredd should be a Lawman, which he is not, he is much more, Judge, Jury, Executioner. This is the same for the Dark Judges, they are more than Peacekeepers, they are Undead entities that have only one purpose, destroy all living beings. Owl and Batman are both Human. The Dark Judges are Undead, genocidal, and in no way have any thing in common with living counter parts.

Perhaps at one time they could be considered Judges but that was when they were still among the living, they chose to become something Dark.

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Old January 20th, 2013, 12:44 PM
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

Just saw this thread. Very cool. I like judge faction and hershey calling other judges for backup. This needs to happen. You have my full support for votes in CG3.

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Old January 20th, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

Thanks latinfury. I have mixed feelings about Hershey and Anderson. I am just not sure what direction to go with them.

streaky also has some very cool designs for Dredd characters.
Hopefully together we can make this part of comics part of C3G. It just takes so long to get designs through the Public process that it may take awhile. Be patient though we will get there.

I personally will be focused on the Dark Judges for awhile. Hershey is way on the back burner for now for me so you may want to support streaky and his design.

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Old January 21st, 2013, 03:10 PM
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

Latinfury got me thinking about the Judges so I figured I should go ahead and workshop them a bit.


Bats and the ERB have issues with any future designs being dual classed as a Telepath. So here is my Telepath version of Anderson.
I am considering going with I Need Back-up, for the first power but making it activate when she attacks and misses a figure.


Judge Anderson


Human
Unique Hero
Telepath
Valiant? She has sacrificed herself to save the city.
Medium 4 or 5

Life: 4

Move: 5
Range: 8
Attack: 4
Defense: 5

Points: 150?

PSI JUDGE or I NEED BACK-UP

After revealing an Order Marker and taking a turn with Judge Anderson, if she inflicted one or more wounds on an enemy figure, you may immediately take a turn with any other Unique Telepath Hero or Judge figure you control.

PRE-COG FLASH
After an opponent reveals a numbered Order Marker on the Army Card of a figure they control, and before a turn is taken with that figure, you may move Judge Anderson up to 5 spaces. When moving with Pre-cog Flash, Judge Anderson will take any leaving engagement attacks. Pre-cog Flash can be used once per round.

ENEMY OF DEATH

Judge Anderson rolls one additional die when attacking or defending against an Undead figure.

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For Hershey I was thinking she could have a Psi-Judge recruitment power.
I am not sure if it will fly with the ERB either. If not I think I might try an Initiative boosting power.

Judge Hershey

Human
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Judge
Selfless
Medium 4

Life: 4

Move: 5
Range: 7
Attack: 4
Defense: 5

Points: 180?

PSI-JUDGE RECRUITMENT
All Telepath figures you control also have Judge as a class.

LAWGIVER ARMOR PIERCING ROUND SPECIAL ATTACK

Range Special. Attack 7.
Reveal an X Order Marker on this card before using this Special Attack. Choose 7 spaces in a straight line from Hershey. All figures on those spaces are affected by this special attack. Roll attack once for all affected figures. Roll defense dice for the figure closest to Hershey. If that figure receives a wound, roll defense dice for the next closest figure. Continue rolling defense until no wounds are inflicted or all affected figures have rolled for defense.

CALL FOR BACKUP
After taking a turn with Judge Hershey, you may move any number of Judges you control up to 5 spaces each. Any Judge moved this way must end its move adjacent to Judge Hershey.
(I am not sure if I can re-use this power like this. If not I would lean towards something like this:

CHIEF JUDGE'S ORDERS
After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, instead of taking a turn with Judge Hershey, you may take a turn with any Judge figure you control. )

If the Psi-Judge power does not fly then I am thinking something like:

Chief Judge's Intel

Add one to your initiative roll for every Judge or Telepath figure you control.

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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

After finally seeing Dredd (Freaking awesome!), I'd have to say that I could see a dual class for Anderson. She's definitely a telepath, but I'd hate for her to not be a judge. I might be the only one who thinks that, but figured I'd share.
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

For the recruitment power, it might be a lot easier for everyone to accept if she just picked one at the beginning of the game.

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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

I posted something similar to what Sir G is describing in the nominations thread last vote I think. In reference to a judge.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 03:37 PM
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

Thanks you three. If we can gvet the OK from Bats and the ERB to dual class Anderson, then I am all for it. If not then I think the recruitment power with Sir G's suggestion will work. I actually like the recruitment idea better, just because I do not want to burn one of Anderson's powers on Telepathic Solidarity.

I guess perhaps in the Psi-Judge power it can say she is also a Judge.

Cool, thanks. I re-post the Rookie Judge design(Margloth driven) and the Dark Judges soon. Oh and the Lawmaster.

Again, this is all back-burner stuff for me as I will be focusing on the Dark Judges. If someone wants to run with one of these Judge designs I encourage it.

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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

Quite honestly, I see no problem with using abilities to dual class a figure. I don't know the character, but dual classing isn't breaking ground, it is already official, and, from what you're saying, it seems more important here than on Solovar.


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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

Umm, MORE Important? No. As important, I can see an argument, but not more important. Solovar IS a Telepath and the King of Gorilla City. We have bonding with both already, so they were necessary.

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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

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Umm, MORE Important? No. As important, I can see an argument, but not more important. Solovar IS a Telepath and the King of Gorilla City. We have bonding with both already, so they were necessary.
I agree that "more important" is the wrong choice of words here. Remember though that every design could be written with just about 100 different class options and no one would disagree that each one would fit. One of the difficulties of designing, is taking 100,000 abilities, labels, terms, ideas, and timelines, then narrowing them all down to the few spaces available on a card.

The best bet is to pick a direction that you want the draft to go and then start the selection process always keeping that in mind.

As long as it is thematic and few and far between I see no reason for dual class, dual species, or dual whatever as long as the overall design supports the addition.

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Re: C3G Dredd'verse ~ Dark Judge workshop

I'm not against the occasional dual class - I just think it's something we have to be very discerning about (to basically echo Chief's comments) and use sparingly.

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