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The Book of Darkseid (II)

The Book of Darkseid (II)

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Justice League Unlimited set.
Its model number and name are #057 / Darkseid.

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Character Bio - Worshipped as the "God of Evil", Darkseid is one of the most powerful beings in existence and the supreme monarch of planet Apokolips. Considered as one of the Justice League's biggest threat, the greatest enemy of New Genesis and one of the greatest threats to the DC Multiverse, he seeks to bend everything and everyone to his will and remake the cosmos in his image, while searching for the Anti-Life Equation. -Comic Vine
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: If a figure chosen to receive a wound with Darkseid's Command and Conquer does not receive the wound, such as if a power of theirs has them ignore the wound, can you still take a turn with Darkseid?
  • A: No, that figure must receive the wound in order for Darkseid to take a turn.
  • Q: Can Omega Effect X be used to place previously destroyed Common Parademons?
  • A: Yes, destroyed Common Parademons are still in your army, thus the power can be used to revive previously destroyed Common Parademons as well as ones still on the battlefield.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Darkseid may activate Parademons with his Command And Conquer special power, and resurrect them with his Omega Effect X special power.
  • Darkseid may replace Injustice Markers with his Omega Effect X special power.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

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Card Updates:
13 December 2021 - Command and Conquer language updated to avoid taking turns with friendly figures.

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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

NAME = DARKSEID
SECRET IDENTITY = UXAS

SPECIES = NEW GOD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ANTAGONIST
PERSONALITY = ABSOLUTIST

SIZE/HEIGHT = LARGE 7

LIFE = 8

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 520


COMMAND AND CONQUER
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, instead of taking a turn with Darkseid, you may take a turn with 1 Unique Hero you control or up to 2 Parademon Squads you control. If they do not destroy a figure, you may choose for one of them to receive a wound. If they receive that wound, take a turn with Darkseid and no other additional turns.

DARKSEID IS
An opponent may never take control of Darkseid, and if he would be destroyed in any way except by this special power, instead he takes no damage and you must roll the 20-sided die. If you roll:
• 10 or lower, Darkseid receives a wound;
• 11-18, inflict a wound on a figure; or
• 19-20, remove a wound from this card.

OMEGA EFFECT X
At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to roll 4 combat dice. Choose up to X figures or empty spaces within 4 spaces of Darkseid. X equals the number of skulls rolled. Inflict a wound onto a chosen figure, or place a previously removed Injustice Marker onto their card. Place a Common Parademon in your army onto a chosen space.

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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

It was suggested that we potentially drop the healing aspect. I'm not sure if that's from Darkseid Is, Omega Effect, or both.

On Omega Effect, I had it on there since he's revived/recreated people along with tearing them down. So the logic was that he'd wound his allies throughout the round if they were failing him, but at the end of the round he had a strategic decision to make. He could use those shields to undo some of his damage to keep his minions at work, or continue to tear down the enemy.

I'm fine with dropping that aspect if desired, though that makes Command And Conquer much more risky.
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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

Surprised you're sticking with 4 move here. Wasn't slowness a complaint about Darkseid (I)?

The healing cut suggestion was from the last power (healing others) not self healing, I believe.

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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

Not married to 4. No idea really why Darkseid I has 4, other than to maybe represent his more arms behind the back methodical conqueror approach. He can move at the quickness of Superman, I believe. Open to whatever people desire.
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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

I think a quicker Darkseid would be cool for contrast (5 or 6 move?).

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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

Yeah, definitely the Omega Effect healing that I was talking about being a little iffy for me, not the self-healing.

I would buy Darkseid healing up minions in a sort of Power Rangers-y "sure you beat my mook, but what if I supercharge him and make you fight him again?" way, but it doesn't track quite as well for me if he's just patching wounds here and there. YMMV, though.
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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

Current planned changes:
Quote:
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = ~545


COMMAND AND CONQUER
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Darkseid, you may take a turn with a friendly Unique Hero. If that Hero does not destroy an enemy figure, you may inflict a wound on that Hero to take a turn with Darkseid. You may not take any additional turns with other figures.

DARKSEID IS
An opponent may never take control of Darkseid, and if he would be destroyed in any way except by this special power, instead he takes no damage and you must roll 1 combat die. If you roll a:
• skull, inflict 1 wound on a figure within 5 spaces;
• shield, place 1 Wound Marker on this card; or
• blank, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.

OMEGA EFFECT 5
At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to roll 5 combat dice. For each shield rolled, you may place a Wound Marker or previously removed marker on, or remove a Wound Marker from, the card of a figure within 5 spaces of Darkseid.
An alternative to Omega Effect 5 I’m considering is:
Quote:
OMEGA EFFECT 5
At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to roll 5 combat dice. Place a Wound Marker or previously removed marker on the card of up to X figures within 5 spaces of Darkseid. X equals the number of skulls rolled.
Goes off skulls instead of shields, but requires you to spread them out instead of enabling you to stack them on one figure.
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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

Skulls feel thematically nice with Darkseid too. I like that change.

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Re: The Book of Darkseid (II) (Breathing)

I'm not a fan of a New Darkseid doing nothing to help the Parademons. The leadership style actually feels good to them, if we could just cut the Unique Hero bit. He leads armies anyway, could we open that up to squads?
Also, Command and Conquer ought to be a power name on this guy.



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Opening up Command and Conquer to Unique Heroes and Parademons would be cool.

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