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Old April 25th, 2019, 06:47 PM
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

This passes.

Thanks Spidey that meant the world to me.

Also, 60 points, T-Rex (that does not look under powered to me), no complaints. Looks pretty even to the other T-Rex in the last image, maybe a little more powerful.






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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

That's absolutely right, Mr.Nobody. If a character/design/concept that I don't have a real interest in ends up going in a direction that feels negative to me, as long as it doesn't negatively impact the game, it wouldn't bother me too much. But one of the coolest and scariest creatures to walk the Earth, what will end up being one of the most iconic generics brought into the game? That's different.


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Old April 25th, 2019, 07:22 PM
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Vote for Initial)

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I am too, but the vibe I'm mostly getting is that T-Spinny wants to do this according to his vision regardless of the response (we asked for public response and the result was, IMO, pretty clear, but pretty clearly ignored).
Out of all the posts this one hurts the most.

Let me present the reality of how we got to here and feel free to call me out if any of this is not true (spoiler: it is all true).

I first work shopped this design in the public, no power, and I felt got a fairly positive response. The real debate was if it should have SS.

I then presented the design in the Last Chance Workshop where it met with heavy resistance. I offered a few different options, including Weak Minded that was also suggested by a few members of the public as well as my version of Tiny Arms, none were accepted by the group.

I then conceded the Crushing Jaws power, which was included in the original posting of this thread. At that point johnny (whom I consider the soul of this project) asked that the no power card be given a chance.

I tried again. More resistance, so I presented what I thought was an incredibly creative and fun power which I thought was well received but apparently some people did not take me seriously while others digressed into childish accusations.

At this point I was asked to present my vision again by two other Heroes, Scape and Karat. My explanation was sufficient for them to give me the thumbs up to proceed.

So by my count, that is approval from four out of five Heroes as well as backing from Legends Spidey and LP.
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

Apologies. Objection withdrawn.

Apologies to Spidey for being a baby for offering my opinion, which I believed had been solicited.

I'll leave you gentlemen to it.

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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

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Apologies. Objection withdrawn.

Apologies to Spidey for being a baby for offering my opinion, which I believed had been solicited.

I'll leave you gentlemen to it.
Yeah, I thought opinions of project members were meant to be relevant. Apparently not, based on Spidey's comments.


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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

I'll echo what Scape was saying. And I will say, at the end of the day, while I do think as much collaboration and consideration as possible is ideal, when a design reaches an impasse the final say goes to the LD and then ultimately to the Heroes voting things through.

Thankfully, this design is only for one specific type of dinosaur from one specific setting subject to one specific publisher, and will not be eating into much, if any, future T-Rex design space. I'd be happy to see Savage Land Rex, Cretaceous Rex, and so on in the future.
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

I'm normally cheering for anything that breaks the mold, but this is one rare case where I just don't get the point of it all.
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

Hey it did seem like most comments were ignored, so I think everyone has a point. I don’t have any particular interest in dinos so do what you gotta do, but doesn’t mean I think a powerless card is the way to go. So many simple powers were thrown around that felt like dinos.

But I’m not a hero either I guess.

I missed the past history with this since I’m new here
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

Can we make the class Juvenile? I think that will help sell the "all stats no powers" approach. Then make the personality Inexperienced or something. That and a slight drop in life (6 or 5) would really help me (personally) embrace this vision.

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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

For those opposed, would you be cool going forward with Tough?
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Re: The Book of Mars T-Rex (Initial Playtest)

See I think tough would be better saved for an herbivore. T-Rex should be all offense.

At this point I think the biggest issue is theme. As currently written, the T-Rex will have a hard time earning his points against squads (wasted attack potential, quickly taking wounds from multi-attacks), but will routinely swallow chunks of heavy hitter heroes as a late game shark that will make it hard to balance him correctly.

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